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Keir Starmer PM

Lad he got elected on a change manifesto with zero policies ready to go after 15 years in opposition.

Saying "it's a shame" is a big stretch.

Two years into power and it's "in the coming months we'll do something bold and courageous"

FFS.
I was watching a very interesting discussion there on Sky News, that very fact was discussed. Mick Lynch joined discuuion later so I switched off.
 
Lad he got elected on a change manifesto with zero policies ready to go after 15 years in opposition.

Saying "it's a shame" is a big stretch.

Two years into power and it's "in the coming months we'll do something bold and courageous"

FFS.
Of course they have policies.
They're all tracked here
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They're broadly doing what they said they'd do, it's just they weren't at all ambitious with those promises. Starmer doesn't really do vision and that's his biggest problem. He doesn't have a grand narrative for how things will be great in 10 years time, what he has is a very managerial approach.

Which is fine for a second in command or a PM in normal times, but these are not normal times.
 
Looks like Brexit - the disaster that keeps on giving (or taking in respect of the pretty dire state of the UK economy) - is about to chew up and spit out yet another PM.
 
Of course they have policies.
They're all tracked here
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They're broadly doing what they said they'd do, it's just they weren't at all ambitious with those promises. Starmer doesn't really do vision and that's his biggest problem. He doesn't have a grand narrative for how things will be great in 10 years time, what he has is a very managerial approach.

Which is fine for a second in command or a PM in normal times, but these are not normal times.
Have you read the list of policies?

The things they've "Achieved" were a vote in the commons, and they stamped a big green tick on it, that's generally overnight stuff.

You'll be well into the next parliament before you feel any benefit of this Party.

what could they do?

They could give people PR-STV.
They could do another vote on Brexit.
They could remove the dodgy cliffs/loopholes in personal tax.
They could sort out taxing assets rather than taxing work.

GB Energy - sticking solar on schools and Hospitals - it's wild that the UK weren't doing this already tbh.
Buying British Steel - why?


People are skint, the tax cliffs take more people out of the economy.
Mental health PIP/UC was a disaster for productivity.
Zero plan for AI job losses.
120 BN a year in interest for their debt next year.
No trade agreement with the US.
Motability accounting for 50% of new cars in NI last year.
Tax deductable electric cars - why?

They want to rebuild the economy, the military, etc.

They haven't yet made the necessary changes they needed to make in 2008.

They're fucked, they're more fucked than they were in 2008, 2016, 2020, it's a death spiral.
 
Have you read the list of policies?

The things they've "Achieved" were a vote in the commons, and they stamped a big green tick on it, that's generally overnight stuff.

You'll be well into the next parliament before you feel any benefit of this Party.

what could they do?

They could give people PR-STV.
They could do another vote on Brexit.
They could remove the dodgy cliffs/loopholes in personal tax.
They could sort out taxing assets rather than taxing work.

GB Energy - sticking solar on schools and Hospitals - it's wild that the UK weren't doing this already tbh.
Buying British Steel - why?


People are skint, the tax cliffs take more people out of the economy.
Mental health PIP/UC was a disaster for productivity.
Zero plan for AI job losses.
120 BN a year in interest for their debt next year.
No trade agreement with the US.
Motability accounting for 50% of new cars in NI last year.
Tax deductable electric cars - why?

They want to rebuild the economy, the military, etc.

They haven't yet made the necessary changes they needed to make in 2008.

They're fucked, they're more fucked than they were in 2008, 2016, 2020, it's a death spiral.

Opportunity missed - they had a great chance to rip the whole thing up after the shambles of Boris and Truss. Instead it appears they set up a few focus groups and tried to govern based on the feedback from those. They caved in on their one progressive tax policy relating to inheritance/wealth.
 
Opportunity missed - they had a great chance to rip the whole thing up after the shambles of Boris and Truss. Instead it appears they set up a few focus groups and tried to govern based on the feedback from those. They caved in on their one progressive tax policy relating to inheritance/wealth.
For thirty years the UK built a tax system that rewards owning assets and punishes working for a living.

Council tax in England is still based on property valuations from 1991. A house bought cheaply decades ago, then renovated, extended and inflated in value tenfold, is often taxed as if it barely changed. Meanwhile wages are taxed immediately and relentlessly.

The result is upside-down:
  • The worker pays income tax and national insurance on every payslip.
  • The renter pays the council tax.
  • The landlord benefits from rising property values they didn’t create.
    • Empty homes appreciate while contributing little back.
    • There are over 1 million empty homes in the UK, so why is property so expensive?
  • Wealth stored in property compounds across generations with far lighter taxation than labour.
A person can become rich purely by sitting on an asset in London while someone earning decent money through work gets hammered from every angle — income tax, frozen thresholds, student loans, childcare cliffs, impossible rents.

The system taxes effort more heavily than accumulation.

That creates a divide between:
  • people who earn well but own nothing, and
  • people who own assets and no longer need to work.
The asset owner gets richer while asleep because housing scarcity pushes prices up. The worker has to run faster every year just to stand still.

And because housing costs absorb so much income, younger people delay or abandon milestones entirely:
  • can’t afford children,
  • can’t afford a home,
  • can’t afford both.
This means the economy is now entirely reliant on immigration.

The problem isn’t that older generations bought homes cheaply. Fair play to them.

The problem is that governments never modernised how property and wealth are taxed after prices exploded. They left a system designed for a completely different economy:
  • no proper property revaluation,
  • weak taxation of land wealth,
  • huge incentives for property speculation,
  • heavy taxation on labour instead.
So capital floods into housing instead of productive investment. Workers become poorer relative to asset owners. Wealth concentrates upward across generations.

The UK economy increasingly rewards passive ownership over productive work, and the balance is now broken.

If I'm a 25 year old college graduate, there's no jobs for me because of AI.

I can go to my GP, say I've got x mental health issue.

Get universal credit, food, rent, car (motability) covered.

I can get on with having kids then, and do all that without needing to work.

I'd be better off doing that, financially, than going to work in Tesco, or in another low paid role.

The arse is falling out of the workforce, because it doesn't pay people to get up in the morning.
 
Always got the impression that 'politics aside' Starmer was a decent man.

The Mandelson issue made me review my opinion of him though.
 
Always got the impression that 'politics aside' Starmer was a decent man.

The Mandelson issue made me review my opinion of him though.

The freebies and the donor flat.
£110k from Lord Alli and other donations. Accepting more gifts than any MP other than Farage, undeclared clothes for his wife, eyeglasses, a security pass for the donor, and a Covid lockdown video filmed in that donor's flat.

The two-child cap arc.
Promised to scrap it, broke the promise, suspended seven Labour MPs for voting their conscience on it, then scrapped it anyway. It rolls broken pledges, ruthlessness toward his own again. Promised this to the left of the Labour Party, promised not to do it to those of the right of the Labour Party. Same pattern with the heating grant.

Israel cutting water and power in Gaza.
Saying a state has the right to deny water and electricity to a civilian population, then quietly walking it back when challenged, is the opposite of grown-up moral leadership. I think this fucked his legacy as a human rights lawyer, and it'll be the biggest reason why people are shifting to the Green Party.

Asymmetric ruthlessness.
Harder on his own than on opponents. Diane Abbott, Faiza Shaheen, the welfare rebels, Sue Gray, the left more broadly. Then you've got the subtle responses to Trump, Farage, and disinformation, He'll bully and fire the people under him, but will never publicly stand up for himself.

No personal accountability. When things go wrong it's advisers, the civil service, the £22bn black hole, Morgan McSweeney, the previous government, "tough choices forced on us." It's always, always someone else's fault, even when its patiently his fault.

Calls for an end to Antisemitism, never talks about Islamophobia.

He's someone else's man.

All that aside, he hasn't touched the sides on any of the reasons why the country is failing so badly.
 
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