Immigration Thread

[Matlock]

Could it possibly be that Somalians make Somalia an unsafe country, and as such Irish Immigration should be very vigilant about people coming from such an unsafe area?

I mean if it was an area where there was a high degree of Ebola that they were coming from, wouldn't you like our Immigration Department to take extra steps to ensure that our population weren't endangered?

You are comparing being Somalian to an infectious disease.

Jesus wept...

 

[Orchard thief]

Theres no argument to be made for not compiling statistics on crime by nationality.

The authorities seem to be too scared to face up to them revealing the exact same trends as shown in other countries who keep detailed stats.

Easier to pretend there isn't a problem than to address how we deal with it.

By not compiling or, more importantly, releasing the statistics the authorities have left the whole thing completely open to conjecture.


Far right* will claim numbers in excess of reality.
Far left* will claim the numbers as statistically irrelevant.

* There’s no meaningful “far” anything in Ireland.

Hiding statistics for fear of interpretation is a shocking look for any supposedly modern western civilisation.

If the stats are worrying in either case then either

A- just acknowledge it and outline a plan for preventative action

B- use the statistics to quell the fears of folk nervous about “the other”

 

[Henrys Fonda]

By not compiling or, more importantly, releasing the statistics the authorities have left the whole thing completely open to conjecture.


Far right* will claim numbers in excess of reality.
Far left* will claim the numbers as statistically irrelevant.

* There’s no meaningful “far” anything in Ireland.

Hiding statistics for fear of interpretation is a shocking look for any supposedly modern western civilisation.

If the stats are worrying in either case then either

A- just acknowledge it and outline a plan for preventative action

B- use the statistics to quell the fears of folk nervous about “the other”

You can better believe if the stats proved nothing to see here, they would be released in the morning

 

[Matlock]

You can better believe if the stats proved nothing to see here, they would be released in the morning

Not for cases that are currently before the courts, to be fair.

 

[Colonel Lee Fields]

Ivana Bacik is blaming the 'toxic masculinity of Irish society' for the alleged actions an asylum seeker from Jordan.

Lol

 

[Hallbopping]

By not compiling or, more importantly, releasing the statistics the authorities have left the whole thing completely open to conjecture.


Far right* will claim numbers in excess of reality.
Far left* will claim the numbers as statistically irrelevant.

* There’s no meaningful “far” anything in Ireland.

Hiding statistics for fear of interpretation is a shocking look for any supposedly modern western civilisation.

If the stats are worrying in either case then either

A- just acknowledge it and outline a plan for preventative action

B- use the statistics to quell the fears of folk nervous about “the other”

This needs to be challenged in my opinion. There are far left and far right politicians in Ireland and behind them are surrogates who skirt the extremes.

Gavin Pepper and Malachy Steenson are far right Cllrs and they are quite close in policies to Indignant Ireland.

Similarly, Paul Murphy and Ruth Coppinger are far left and very far left at that. I’d argue the Soc Dems are their surrogates.

 

[flyingspud]

Ivana Bacik is blaming the 'toxic masculinity of Irish society' for the alleged actions an asylum seeker from Jordan.

Lol

Same old playbook in the aftermath of Aisling Murphy killing, only they got very quiet indeed when the background of the perp was made known.

Strange how slow the cops are releasing a likeness of a dangerous man on the run, wouldn't you think the public may want to know what he looks like?

 

[Orchard thief]

This needs to be challenged in my opinion. There are far left and far right politicians in Ireland and behind them are surrogates who skirt the extremes.

Gavin Pepper and Malachy Steenson are far right Cllrs and they are quite close in policies to Indignant Ireland.

Similarly, Paul Murphy and Ruth Coppinger are far left and very far left at that. I’d argue the Soc Dems are their surrogates.

What percentage of the GE vote did these 4 get?

How many of our 174 TDs are actually dangerously far on either side.

The Healy-Raes believe in fairies.

I dunno do we need to be on guard about the potential rise of fairies because of it tbhwy.

 

[Hallbopping]

What percentage of the GE vote did these 4 get?

How many of our 174 TDs are actually dangerously far on either side.

The Healy-Raes believe in fairies.

I dunno do we need to be on guard about the potential rise of fairies because of it tbhwy.

And that’s a fair point. However, the likes of Murphy and Coppinger along with Indignant Ireland receive significant media exposure because of Dáil speaking time slots. They are frequently on RTÉ and Virgin too.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t be but all it takes is one TD to get elected to get a whole host of extremist issues on the agenda. Indignant Ireland are now going after Ogbu partly because her transfers helped elect Seán Kyne (genuine ) and partly because of other more sinister reasons.

 

[Orchard thief]

And that’s a fair point. However, the likes of Murphy and Coppinger along with Indignant Ireland receive significant media exposure because of Dáil speaking time slots. They are frequently on RTÉ and Virgin too.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t be but all it takes is one TD to get elected to get a whole host of extremist issues on the agenda. Indignant Ireland are now going after Ogbu partly because her transfers helped elect Seán Kyne (genuine ) and partly because of other more sinister reasons.

We’ve 174 TDs and we’re supposed to be worried about the one that hasn’t even been close to being elected?

The reason the right (not far right) has gotten more traction is because the ideologues in the left can’t get their shit together enough to put up any semblance of a united front.

People don’t generally give a shit about trans issues, gender identity, 200 year old statues etc

They care about cost of housing, food and fuel.

That’s too mundane for the left to be interested in.