Immigration Thread

[Meridian]

Your an embarrassment m8

How ?

Its called common sense, immigrants get offered thousands to go back to where they came from.

Now the Dept seem to be wondering why so many are applying all of a sudden?

And I am an embarrassment?

 

[deeptek]

It’s not a decision. It’s an economic analysis as well as a demographic analysis done to determine what level of taxation the state requires to collect to ensure it can pay pensions and provide services.

It most certainly is a decision to aim for a certain level of migration.

 

[Hallbopping]

It most certainly is a decision to aim for a certain level of migration.

Link?

 

[deeptek]

Link?

Link for what.

 

[jimmym]

I suppose certain groups will weaponise yesterdays terrible killing in Dublin

 

[Hallbopping]

Link for what.

To the decision you think has been made and who made it.

 

[deeptek]

To the decision you think has been made and who made it.

I asked a question of a previous poster who claimed we are aiming for a population of 6.5-8 million. You butted your arrogant gombeen FF head in without reading posts with gibberish about services and taxes. I don't need to provide any link.

 

[Hallbopping]

I asked a question of a previous poster who claimed we are aiming for a population of 6.5-8 million. You butted your arrogant gombeen FF head in without reading posts with gibberish about services and taxes. I don't need to provide any link.

I said to you that the need for immigration has come from analysis done by economists and demographics experts.

Sure if the Government had a secret plan to have more immigration we’d have found out about it long before it was ever agreed. If you can be guaranteed of something in Ireland it’s leaking.

 

[leesider]

Doesnt really answer the question though, who decided we were aiming for 6.5 - 8 million?
And wheres the plan to deal with it.

I think you may be giving the government too much credit for actually making a decision that far in advance and having joined up thinking. I don’t think anyone decided we are aiming for that but it is more a projection of what it will be if there’s migration at those levels and the needs of the economy.

The need for immigration is driven by an aging population and the type of economy we have and want to have. Growth is how we judge our economies and one of the easiest ways to get that growth is through population growth. Maybe those metrics need to change however in the article I shared earlier in the week the Netherlands, which currently has a population of 18 million, needs to grow to 19 or 20 million by 2050 "to care for an ageing population and maintain its living standards" and I am sure Ireland has pretty much the same reasons.

The lower end is not actually that big a rise when you consider it’s a 1 million growth over 30 years and we had a population growth of 1.2 million in 20 years between 2002 and 2022. The higher end is IMHO too high unless we start planning properly in this country and from an economy, pension, old age care perspective I don't think it would be needed and from a social perspective it would be more difficult as well.

The government belatedly are putting more emphasis on infrastrcuture spending as we have seen in the recent budget so while people may complain about not getting a tax cut, the capital side has received more spending which is badly needed.

 

[Do the opposite.]

You must be drinking in the Hayfield Manor or something feen.

When the crumbs were dropped the mice got there before me.

Average house price was less than 60 k in 1990, average wage was about 18k , so about 3 times your annual salary, its about 9 times an annual salary now.
Were you living at home with your parents in your 30s?, were u in your own house?
Was the healthcare better? What was the cost of living like , a good comparison below of a grocery bill from 1990 in comparison to today. The boomers had a far better quality of life.

People shocked at 90s grocery prices after man finds old Tesco receipt

A shopper was confronted with the reality of the cost of living crisis in the UK after he found a receipt from Tesco shop they did in 1991. The retro receipt showed he purchased 32 items for £56.30.

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