GAAGO - Rebel Strike (again)

[The Dagda]

Yes but you don't need to be a Sky customer, have a Sky box and a satellite dish, is all I said

No. But you do need to pay someone else, be their customer and get their equipment instead.
No need to get caught up in semantics.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

No. But you do need to pay someone else and get their equipment instead.
No need to get caught up on semantics.

I'm not caught up in semantics, you made a statement that was untrue. No one is denying that games on sky sports were behind a paywall.

 

[rebel without a caus]

Why are you putting words in my mouth?
I never said anything about GAAGO being successful.

Take off the tinfoil hat for a second.
The GAA is completely transparent about its finances. Why people need to be spoon-fed on here is beyond me.

The GAA reported a healthy consolidated revenue of €112M in 2023 with a consolidated surplus of €6.5M.
Gate receipts of €38.5M – an increase of 15% on 2022 – played a big role in these robust financial figures.
The increase in gate receipts was generated by a 22% increase in inter-county attendance figures with 1,697,778 spectators coming through the stiles.
For every euro generated by the GAA, 83 cents was reinvested directly into the development of the Association across clubs, schools, counties, and provinces.
€13.2M was invested in Coaching and Games Development in 2023, which was a year-on-year increase of €2.5m.
That’s the net effect of Year 1 of the newly launched Coaching and Games programme which will see an investment of €48M over four years with 350 coaches now employed nationwide to assist clubs.
Distribution to GAA units was €19.7M, an increase of 3m on 2022.
€7.2M was invested in Player Welfare while €8.5M was invested in the redevelopment of 25 County Grounds and training centres.
€4M went to clubs to assist them in redeveloping their pitches, club-houses and facilities while €5.3M went to club supports and sister Associations.
Spending on the Association’s International unites and their games development programmes increased from €1.4M to €1.8M.
The GAA’s Injury Benefit Fund recorded a surplus of €3M for 2023 and is ringfenced and can only be used to support injury costs for injuries incurred during matches and supervised training.
As part of the injury funds ongoing management, Coiste Bainistíochta has given approval for a premium rebate of up to 25 per cent per club in 2024 which will see club premiums reduce by over €1.3m next year.
The ‘Player Injury Expense’ threshold will increase from €5,200 to €5,500 and the ‘Loss of Wages cover levels increase for all players by €100 per week.
These adjustments will become effective from June 1, 2024, and are expected to reallocate up to €2M from the injury fund reserve.
GAA Ard Stiúrthóir Tom Ryan’s Annual Report and the GAA’s Consolidated Financial Statements for 2023 can be read here - 14742 GAA Annual Report digital (fliphtml5.com)

Highlighted the key parts for you

 

[rebel without a caus]

Highlighted the key parts for you

Thats 3.6% of the money went back to the clubs.

 

[ThatFella]

Why are you putting words in my mouth?
I never said anything about GAAGO being successful.

Take off the tinfoil hat for a second.
The GAA is completely transparent about its finances. Why people need to be spoon-fed on here is beyond me.

The GAA reported a healthy consolidated revenue of €112M in 2023 with a consolidated surplus of €6.5M.
Gate receipts of €38.5M – an increase of 15% on 2022 – played a big role in these robust financial figures.
The increase in gate receipts was generated by a 22% increase in inter-county attendance figures with 1,697,778 spectators coming through the stiles.
For every euro generated by the GAA, 83 cents was reinvested directly into the development of the Association across clubs, schools, counties, and provinces.
€13.2M was invested in Coaching and Games Development in 2023, which was a year-on-year increase of €2.5m.
That’s the net effect of Year 1 of the newly launched Coaching and Games programme which will see an investment of €48M over four years with 350 coaches now employed nationwide to assist clubs.
Distribution to GAA units was €19.7M, an increase of 3m on 2022.
€7.2M was invested in Player Welfare while €8.5M was invested in the redevelopment of 25 County Grounds and training centres.
€4M went to clubs to assist them in redeveloping their pitches, club-houses and facilities while €5.3M went to club supports and sister Associations.
Spending on the Association’s International unites and their games development programmes increased from €1.4M to €1.8M.
The GAA’s Injury Benefit Fund recorded a surplus of €3M for 2023 and is ringfenced and can only be used to support injury costs for injuries incurred during matches and supervised training.
As part of the injury funds ongoing management, Coiste Bainistíochta has given approval for a premium rebate of up to 25 per cent per club in 2024 which will see club premiums reduce by over €1.3m next year.
The ‘Player Injury Expense’ threshold will increase from €5,200 to €5,500 and the ‘Loss of Wages cover levels increase for all players by €100 per week.
These adjustments will become effective from June 1, 2024, and are expected to reallocate up to €2M from the injury fund reserve.
GAA Ard Stiúrthóir Tom Ryan’s Annual Report and the GAA’s Consolidated Financial Statements for 2023 can be read here - 14742 GAA Annual Report digital (fliphtml5.com)

Didn't put words in your mouth?

You said that there's a market for a stand alone TV Channel? So that would have to mean it's successful?

I've no tinfoil hat at all.
I know the GAA is transparent and I'm making for the case that with the further income from GAA GO more money should be put back into grassroots and clubs.

I've highlighted a few things, the figures yes look great but 4 million back into clubs while is brilliant definitely could be more and that 4 million is not evenly spread.
Why do clubs have to do weekly lotto fundraisers along with other fundraisers?
Why is my membership cost rising? (Yes a few euro is the club but also a few euro is HQ, so we were told at the AGM)
Why are match tickets increasing?
Why do GAA Clubs have to pay for GAA Go?

 

[The Dagda]

I'm not caught up in semantics, you made a statement that was untrue. No one is denying that games on sky sports were behind a paywall.

My whole argument is about I'm against games behind a paywall. It used to be SKY now its GAAGO.

Saying it was technically possible to get Sky through your subscription to another paid service which still require a sub, equipment etc is arguing semantics.

 

[The Dagda]

Didn't put words in your mouth?

You said that there's a market for a stand alone TV Channel? So that would have to mean it's successful?

I've no tinfoil hat at all.
I know the GAA is transparent and I'm making for the case that with the further income from GAA GO more money should be put back into grassroots and clubs.

I've highlighted a few things, the figures yes look great but 4 million back into clubs while is brilliant definitely could be more and that 4 million is not evenly spread.
Why do clubs have to do weekly lotto fundraisers along with other fundraisers?
Why is my membership cost rising? (Yes a few euro is the club but also a few euro is HQ, so we were told at the AGM)
Why are match tickets increasing?
Why do GAA Clubs have to pay for GAA Go?

What are you blathering about.
I said a free GAA channel funded by ads would be the way I would go.
Of course there is a market for GAA matches. They regularly get high viewing figures?

You need to contact your club delegate about the rest pal.
I've shown you where the finances go, you're still not happy.
It was 19.7 million to clubs, 4 million went to redevelopment in clubs.

Once again.
Distribution to GAA units was €19.7M, an increase of 3m on 2022.
€7.2M was invested in Player Welfare while €8.5M was invested in the redevelopment of 25 County Grounds and training centres.
€4M went to clubs to assist them in redeveloping their pitches, club-houses and facilities while €5.3M went to club supports and sister Associations.
Spending on the Association’s International unites and their games development programmes increased from €1.4M to €1.8M.
The GAA’s Injury Benefit Fund recorded a surplus of €3M for 2023 and is ringfenced and can only be used to support injury costs for injuries incurred during matches and supervised training.
As part of the injury funds ongoing management, Coiste Bainistíochta has given approval for a premium rebate of up to 25 per cent per club in 2024 which will see club premiums reduce by over €1.3m next year.
The ‘Player Injury Expense’ threshold will increase from €5,200 to €5,500 and the ‘Loss of Wages cover levels increase for all players by €100 per week.

 

[rebel without a caus]

What are you blathering about.
I said a free GAA channel funded by ads would be the way I would go.
Of course there is a market for GAA matches. They regularly get high viewing figures?

You need to contact your club delegate about the rest pal.
I've shown you where the finances go, you're still not happy.
It was 19.7 million to clubs, 4 million went to redevelopment in clubs.

Once again.
Distribution to GAA units was €19.7M, an increase of 3m on 2022.
€7.2M was invested in Player Welfare while €8.5M was invested in the redevelopment of 25 County Grounds and training centres.
€4M went to clubs to assist them in redeveloping their pitches, club-houses and facilities while €5.3M went to club supports and sister Associations.
Spending on the Association’s International unites and their games development programmes increased from €1.4M to €1.8M.
The GAA’s Injury Benefit Fund recorded a surplus of €3M for 2023 and is ringfenced and can only be used to support injury costs for injuries incurred during matches and supervised training.
As part of the injury funds ongoing management, Coiste Bainistíochta has given approval for a premium rebate of up to 25 per cent per club in 2024 which will see club premiums reduce by over €1.3m next year.
The ‘Player Injury Expense’ threshold will increase from €5,200 to €5,500 and the ‘Loss of Wages cover levels increase for all players by €100 per week.

Again, it can be hard to see the wood for the trees, so I highlighted the part that says how much went back to clubs.

 

[rebel without a caus]

What are you blathering about.
I said a free GAA channel funded by ads would be the way I would go.
Of course there is a market for GAA matches. They regularly get high viewing figures?

You need to contact your club delegate about the rest pal.
I've shown you where the finances go, you're still not happy.
It was 19.7 million to clubs, 4 million went to redevelopment in clubs.

Once again.
Distribution to GAA units was €19.7M, an increase of 3m on 2022.
€7.2M was invested in Player Welfare while €8.5M was invested in the redevelopment of 25 County Grounds and training centres.
€4M went to clubs to assist them in redeveloping their pitches, club-houses and facilities while €5.3M went to club supports and sister Associations.
Spending on the Association’s International unites and their games development programmes increased from €1.4M to €1.8M.
The GAA’s Injury Benefit Fund recorded a surplus of €3M for 2023 and is ringfenced and can only be used to support injury costs for injuries incurred during matches and supervised training.
As part of the injury funds ongoing management, Coiste Bainistíochta has given approval for a premium rebate of up to 25 per cent per club in 2024 which will see club premiums reduce by over €1.3m next year.
The ‘Player Injury Expense’ threshold will increase from €5,200 to €5,500 and the ‘Loss of Wages cover levels increase for all players by €100 per week.

The financial gymnastics being performed here to make-out €19.7m was sent back to clubs

 

[CaptainSensible]

Another one.
My idea.

I was referring to when you said you'd like to see a channel for GAA members only, which is patently ridiculous.