Cyclists

[El Guapo]

?
Initials EH by any chance?

You can say Eddie Halvey, he was convicted

 

[markyboy]

One of these.

 

[BoggyRoad]

I don’t get it. Why no apology, why not statement in court from the driver to outline his sorry for what he has done to that family.
Was he under advice of his solicitor to keep his mouth shut or what?

 

[knockfiarna]

Someone earlier in thread mentioned that they were familiar with the road and that crossing was too close to roundabout. This seems to be a growing trend ,councils tend to place these crossing without perhaps thinking it through fully from a safety point of view. I was driving here in wicklow today and was approaching a Y junction with a pancake type roundabout in the centre. Pedestrian crossings on each exit only a few metres from roundabout, watching traffic flow you also really need to be aware of pedestrians and I concur crossings should be placed further back where possible ,ie where footpath on both sides. Such a devastating tragedy for that family and the heartbreak must be unimaginable, my heart goes out to them .RIP André.

 

[El Guapo]

Someone earlier in thread mentioned that they were familiar with the road and that crossing was too close to roundabout. This seems to be a growing trend ,councils tend to place these crossing without perhaps thinking it through fully from a safety point of view. I was driving here in wicklow today and was approaching a Y junction with a pancake type roundabout in the centre. Pedestrian crossings on each exit only a few metres from roundabout, watching traffic flow you also really need to be aware of pedestrians and I concur crossings should be placed further back where possible ,ie where footpath on both sides. Such a devastating tragedy for that family and the heartbreak must be unimaginable, my heart goes out to them .RIP André.

it doesn't matter where the crossing is. If the green man is flashing it should be safe to cross.

Driver behaviour in general is absolutely deplorable. You see it every day. Fellas who nip into a yellow box and get caught so nip through the green man when the traffic clears because they are more worried about blocking traffic then protecting vulnerable pedestrians.

Fellas parking the car up on footpaths. Again because they have no regard for pedestrian.

Drivers not stopping to let pedestrians pass Zebra crossings, The pedestrian has right of way once they are at edge. Drivers should stop 100% of the time

I could go on and on and on but there is no point because people don't see these things as the antisocial behaviour they are

 

[Meridian]

All of the driving geniuses, know all's and hang em high brigade are out tonight.

 

[El Guapo]

All of the driving geniuses, know all's and hang em high brigade are out tonight.

so are the "fuck em I own a car, so I know best" crowd

 

[yellowsliotar]

so are the "fuck em I own a car, so I know best" crowd

Correct.
He was trying to get an out for that driver a few days ago.

 

[Chara021]

There are lots of rules and regulations regards using the roads. And rightly so. Most people try to be diligent in up holding those rules.

Unfortunately there is also a lot of human error. People are distracted, people are tired , people are human and don't have marvel character abilities /reflexes or super human awareness 24/7.

They have normal human awareness which is not exactly foolproof and is sometimes subject to lapse and deteriation on any given day. For whatever reason. And that reason doesn't hold any water because the driver is always responsible. That's the law.

I remember Judge from Wanderly Wagon singing the Safe Cross Code. The emphasis being on the pedestrian also going through a set of rules. To keep ourselves safe. Why? Because drivers can't be trusted to see everything and do everything right at the very moment you might be crossing the road. You had to be aware of this fact. Having the right of way on a pedestrian crossing isn't a foregone conclusion. No matter what the rules are.

You're not wrong in proceeding to cross on the green man, but you're also not entirely safe if you ignore the Safe Cross Code. And if you get knocked down you are still not wrong , the driver is. That's the law.

I drove a motorbike for a time. Had all the high Vis , the headlight was always on, I drove practically with eyes at the back of my head because it was obvious sometimes car drivers just didn't see me. It's the same with pedestrians. Sometimes they just don't get seen. Is that right?? No of course not.

But it's the reality. And roads / town junctions are overloaded. And they are busy and they are messy. And people are people.
Fragile , flawed and always potential victims to a one split second mistake, or a two second mistake, or a three second mistake. On all sides. All road users. Everyone needs to be diligent.

Nobody sets out to kill someone on the road. And nobody sets out to not be careful when surrounded by mere humans driving vehicles.

It's just sometimes the rules and regulations don't always protect us.

 

[Chara021]

so are the "fuck em I own a car, so I know best" crowd

Really?? Seriously?? Like Really?? You actually think this??