Cork U20 hurlers 2026

[Killyoursons]

Killy

The leaving out of players on the panel was also a joke in 2025 and Fulong & his crew had a chance to rectify but messed up in the same way. You're acknowledging O'Brien in 2026 now but criticising me for showing it up over 2 years is a joke.

I'm going to say this one last time: there is a difference between raising questions as to why certain players aren't included and stating that it is 'a joke' that they are not. I have no problem with the former, and have done so myself. But I'd also acknowledge that I have not seen nearly as much of different players as others have, including the management. And I'd also acknowledge that in many cases it is reasonable to disagree on selection calls. The difference between us is that you scarcely, if ever, acknowledge either of these things.

The challenge match was relevant to the panel selected then and there was no jumping to conclusions.

It was relevant, but v little could be read into it as it was (a) a challenge match, and (b) just one of a number of such matches. And you certainly did jump to conclusions. You wrote the whole set-up off as a shambles before championship had even begun. While there were plenty of legitimate criticisms to be made of how Furlong and co. handled things last year, I simply disagree that it was a shambles across the whole championship. I would point, for instance, to the massive improvement in the displays between the first and last matches (both vs Clare). So writing it off as a shambles before the championship even started was a massive jump on your part to a conclusion I think was incorrect.

You don't think the players improved and got more into the game without the style of play changed. Also this means the management went with the wrong style of play from the start.

I think they did. They then rectified that in the last three matches. You see - it's possible for me to both criticise them and acknowledge when I consider that they got things right.

If you read your previous post you should know after you see where you used the 'if' word.

I read my previous post. Please quote where I used the word 'if' in a way which is objectionable.

 

[Corkonian1]

if someone has seen a lot of certain players, it's reasonable for them to have a view as to which merit select and which do not.

This contradicts you questioning the merit of Mark O'Brien on the panel for this year, it also ignores any relevance to the players they left out last year.

Basically in your first paragraph you're stating it's okay to raise the questions why certain players aren't involved but it's not okay to be critical of the management for leaving out those players. Others defending them are hypothetically stating that 18 year old's have probably done excellent in winter training above 20 year old's who played inter-county before and stood out at senior club championship last year. You say 'I have not seen' well I have seen those players from at least under 16 and some of them are superior to players who are praised on here for the so-called winter training program and as I've stated already played inter-county minor at least.

'Shambles' you don't see it but what is it if anything near the best panel isn't selected ever before a challenge match is played, they had no hope of winning a championship because they haven't selected anything near the best panel at this age which followed with my correct match predictions. The management have repeated the act in 2026 and another poster has highlighted a disagreement between Furlong and Mark O'Brien so therefore O'Brien is dumped from the panel to the extended panel for the Tipp game and brought back to the panel as cover because John Murphy is suspended for Limerick but not given any game time.

'its possible for me to criticise and acknowledge', what mullarkey! You stand up for the management at all cost but you can continue at your peril, yet over 2 years the Furlong management have not gone with plenty hurlers who are well up to this level and some should be starters.

 

[omar]

@Killyoursons can I just say you're absolutely wasting your sweetness here. You can't debate with a person who genuinely believes they are never wrong and feels obliged to lecture Cork selectors after games. He's not for turning.

 

[Corkonian1]

@Killyoursons can I just say you're absolutely wasting your sweetness here. You can't debate with a person who genuinely believes they are never wrong and feels obliged to lecture Cork selectors after games. He's not for turning.

It was you who defended the Furlong selection in January 2025 and now we have Killy repeating same in 2026. When the Cork selector was in my company why wouldn't I question his selecting, others referred on here recently of him managing the Cork minor team in 2020 but it doesn't surprise me you're a fan.

 

[JimmyBarrySmurph]

It was you who defended the Furlong selection in January 2025 and now we have Killy repeating same in 2026. When the Cork selector was in my company why wouldn't I question his selecting, others referred on here recently of him managing the Cork minor team in 2020 but it doesn't surprise me you're a fan.

We could have done with Furlong on the line up in Limerick yesterday.

 

[omar]

It was you who defended the Furlong selection in January 2025 and now we have Killy repeating same in 2026. When the Cork selector was in my company why wouldn't I question his selecting, others referred on here recently of him managing the Cork minor team in 2020 but it doesn't surprise me you're a fan.

 

[Killyoursons]

This contradicts you questioning the merit of Mark O'Brien on the panel for this year, it also ignores any relevance to the players they left out last year.

It doesn't. I've explained why, more than once.

Basically in your first paragraph you're stating it's okay to raise the questions why certain players aren't involved but it's not okay to be critical of the management for leaving out those players.

Not so. It's fine to criticise management. What I object to is when people criticise without acknowledging that they might be mistaken, that others who disagree might have good reasons or even know more about the players in question, etc.

You say 'I have not seen' well I have seen those players from at least under 16 and some of them are superior to players who are praised on here for the so-called winter training program

In your opinion. Which is (I have never suggested otherwise) an informed opinion. But others have contrary opinions, and in many cases those will be informed opinions as well.

'Shambles' you don't see it but what is it if anything near the best panel isn't selected ever before a challenge match is played, they had no hope of winning a championship because they haven't selected anything near the best panel at this age which followed with my correct match predictions.

They had a slim enough chance of winning last year in any case, tbh, as was widely accepted before the championship started. And the selection of the panel is only one part of the whole set-up which you were so keen to dismiss in its entirety as a shambles.

'its possible for me to criticise and acknowledge', what mullarkey! You stand up for the management at all cost

No I don't. You are either lying or you haven't bothered to read my posts about this management. Here's a challenge for you: have a quick look at my posts after the first two matches last year and explain to me how I was standing up for the management 'at all costs'.

Edit: here's a link to make things easier for you: https://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/index.php?threads/cork-u-20-hurlers-2025.249098/page-24
That page and the next ten or so in that thread.

 

[longbigandjuicy]

@Killyoursons can I just say you're absolutely wasting your sweetness here. You can't debate with a person who genuinely believes they are never wrong and feels obliged to lecture Cork selectors after games. He's not for turning.

X2 That lad has destroyed the minor threads before as well with hatred for every manager or management and even players making the team. He must be close to ban soon. I've not liked every manager appointment but majority of these guys are giving up a lot of there free time to try and make things work and pick what they deem as the best team available. The are never going to get everything right. Armchair trolls/hurler on the ditch like corkonian having daily pops of them is a turn off for many poster on here.

 

[Field1]

It doesn't. I've explained why, more than once.

Not so. It's fine to criticise management. What I object to is when people criticise without acknowledging that they might be mistaken, that others who disagree might have good reasons or even know more about the players in question, etc.


In your opinion. Which is (I have never suggested otherwise) an informed opinion. But others have contrary opinions, and in many cases those will be informed opinions as well.


They had a slim enough chance of winning last year in any case, tbh, as was widely accepted before the championship started. And the selection of the panel is only one part of the whole set-up which you were so keen to dismiss in its entirety as a shambles.


No I don't. You are either lying or you haven't bothered to read my posts about this management. Here's a challenge for you: have a quick look at my posts after the first two matches last year and explain to me how I was standing up for the management 'at all costs'.

Edit: here's a link to make things easier for you: https://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/index.php?threads/cork-u-20-hurlers-2025.249098/page-24
That page and the next ten or so in that thread.

Killy, you are a very good poster on here, but at this stage you must see it is a waste.of time replying to these posts. I would suggest for all our sanity just put him on ignore.

 

[Corkonian1]

Killy

Your explanation is based on others might be right on winter training of the 18 year olds etc. and I should acknowledge their opinions.

Again 'without acknowledging they might be mistaken' which is only hypothetical jargon. If I'm proven mistaken I will acknowledge and also give credit due to the management but anyone watching underage hurling in Cork over the years know that players such as Conor McCarthy and Mark O'Brien are easily good enough for this years U-20 team and they're officially not even on the panel. There were others last year and if you judge over the 2 years the Furlong management have lost out on up to 10 players in total, I know of 2 players who pulled out or wouldn't make themselves available.

'Slim enough chance', Cork lost narrowly to Clare to qualify for the Munster final and Clare lost narrowly to Tipp in the final but of course you believe the players Furlong left out wouldn't have made the slight bit of difference.

It was you who addressed me with criticism and lacking in humility because I showed up the truth regarding selections and I'm talking over a few weeks this time not a year and a half. Why don't you read my initial post which the likes of overtheline and hurlywurly among others took so much offence with and tell me why I haven't a right to criticise 'if it's 'fine to criticise management'. The post wasn't offensive to any posters on here but I've been constantly ridiculed, name-called and sweared at, sure life goes on and I know their type. Read what Pooman stated on Furlong over both years and Twiceasnice last year.