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<blockquote data-quote="Corkonian1" data-source="post: 7167464" data-attributes="member: 46698"><p>JimmyBarrySMurph</p><p></p><p>Agree to differ is right!</p><p></p><p>I've not being critical of KO'D, I wish him best of luck and I'm prepared to wait and see over some time what he delivers. However the club delegates to County Board are on a similar track now as they were before KO'D and therefore I believe change is too slow.</p><p></p><p>Correct regarding the stadium and 'the dogs on the street' do know the truth, wasn't a lot of the truth highlighted before the project was finalised so I believe I'm correct in stating transparency wasn't adhered.</p><p></p><p>Cork abandoned their culture of direct hurling through over coaching of a game that really isn't proper hurling and demands huge physicality following on from hierarchy directives. The County Board over many years didn't care and ignored reality and gave the managerial and coaching jobs mainly to those who obeyed their agendas. The 'dogs on the street' are wise enough to this as well but too much is kept quiet.</p><p></p><p>As for the calls you refer to being reflected in sport it is down to tolerance and Cork people are far too tolerant and casual even more so than their fellow Irish. Regarding the 'caualty stories' when they effect player development within youth in particular those who caused the 'casualty' should be weeded out but again tolerance is the issue. Too many people within a family are hurt. I don't empathise with managers/selectors who leave out a player who 'the dogs on the street' know is good enough for the team so I don't agree with your 'be all and end all' philosophy.</p><p></p><p>It is wrong to appoint a senior manager from the position of juvenile manager and this is why John Meyler should never have got the Cork Senior Hurling Manager's job. Any correct set-up would appoint him only to the next level and that was the practice in Pat Ryan's appointment.</p><p></p><p>I agree with you on the underage development squad structure but over coaching is again a huge problem here, didn't a poster on here state that the Cork minors had up to 8 coaches involved in a challenge game v Midleton CBS last week. However I don't agree with you that KO'D is keeping the divisional panels together up to minor, firstly they are regional panels and not divisional. Secondly the players in one part of the region have little in common with other players from the region which puts more burden on players and their parents driving them to matches and training etc. The City and West lads form one regional panel for the 2022 Cork U-15 and this years U-16 Cork team and apparently John Meyler favours them big time over other regional panels players for the Cork team, this simply should not and cannot be the case if the county board are doing their job.</p><p></p><p>I believe your descendants are correct about strokes pulled back the years but it's the amount of strokes that count in a specific period and the fact that power corrupts more over time and the self appointed Kaiser and his cronies were in the hot seats for nearly 50 years with the club delegates mainly their obediant's so a decline was imperative. Remember Cork had a great success rate per decade at all levels and then only a few AI's in 17 years.</p><p></p><p>You acknowledge Cork were unlucky in 2013 but they were also unlucky in 2017 and 2018. Reffing decisions were huge against Cork winning the All-Ireland any of those 3 years. The hierarchy definitely penalised Cork for the strikes and the aforementioned County Board stayed silent and a lot of folk don't want to hear or speak a word relating same to this day. If Cork won 2 of those 3 All-Irelands they would have emulated the 80's team. I believe they would definitely have won 2 if there were no county board agendas in that period and attention to detail and honesty was applied on selectoral decisions alone not to mind the rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corkonian1, post: 7167464, member: 46698"] JimmyBarrySMurph Agree to differ is right! I've not being critical of KO'D, I wish him best of luck and I'm prepared to wait and see over some time what he delivers. However the club delegates to County Board are on a similar track now as they were before KO'D and therefore I believe change is too slow. Correct regarding the stadium and 'the dogs on the street' do know the truth, wasn't a lot of the truth highlighted before the project was finalised so I believe I'm correct in stating transparency wasn't adhered. Cork abandoned their culture of direct hurling through over coaching of a game that really isn't proper hurling and demands huge physicality following on from hierarchy directives. The County Board over many years didn't care and ignored reality and gave the managerial and coaching jobs mainly to those who obeyed their agendas. The 'dogs on the street' are wise enough to this as well but too much is kept quiet. As for the calls you refer to being reflected in sport it is down to tolerance and Cork people are far too tolerant and casual even more so than their fellow Irish. Regarding the 'caualty stories' when they effect player development within youth in particular those who caused the 'casualty' should be weeded out but again tolerance is the issue. Too many people within a family are hurt. I don't empathise with managers/selectors who leave out a player who 'the dogs on the street' know is good enough for the team so I don't agree with your 'be all and end all' philosophy. It is wrong to appoint a senior manager from the position of juvenile manager and this is why John Meyler should never have got the Cork Senior Hurling Manager's job. Any correct set-up would appoint him only to the next level and that was the practice in Pat Ryan's appointment. I agree with you on the underage development squad structure but over coaching is again a huge problem here, didn't a poster on here state that the Cork minors had up to 8 coaches involved in a challenge game v Midleton CBS last week. However I don't agree with you that KO'D is keeping the divisional panels together up to minor, firstly they are regional panels and not divisional. Secondly the players in one part of the region have little in common with other players from the region which puts more burden on players and their parents driving them to matches and training etc. The City and West lads form one regional panel for the 2022 Cork U-15 and this years U-16 Cork team and apparently John Meyler favours them big time over other regional panels players for the Cork team, this simply should not and cannot be the case if the county board are doing their job. I believe your descendants are correct about strokes pulled back the years but it's the amount of strokes that count in a specific period and the fact that power corrupts more over time and the self appointed Kaiser and his cronies were in the hot seats for nearly 50 years with the club delegates mainly their obediant's so a decline was imperative. Remember Cork had a great success rate per decade at all levels and then only a few AI's in 17 years. You acknowledge Cork were unlucky in 2013 but they were also unlucky in 2017 and 2018. Reffing decisions were huge against Cork winning the All-Ireland any of those 3 years. The hierarchy definitely penalised Cork for the strikes and the aforementioned County Board stayed silent and a lot of folk don't want to hear or speak a word relating same to this day. If Cork won 2 of those 3 All-Irelands they would have emulated the 80's team. I believe they would definitely have won 2 if there were no county board agendas in that period and attention to detail and honesty was applied on selectoral decisions alone not to mind the rest. [/QUOTE]
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