Cork Hurlers - Part 2

Imho I think Pat Ryan should be targeting a team for the future like this: 1. Paudie O’Sullivan 2. Sean O’Donoghue (C) 3. Ryan Walsh 4. Niall O’Leary 5. Eoin Downey 6. Ciarán Joyce 7. Daire O’Leary 8. Mark Coleman 9. Ben O’Connor 10. Tim O’Mahoney 11. Darragh Fitzgibbon 12. Robbie O’Flynn 13. Shane Kingston 14. Declan Dalton 15. Alan Connolly
 
Imho I think Pat Ryan should be targeting a team for the future like this: 1. Paudie O’Sullivan 2. Sean O’Donoghue (C) 3. Ryan Walsh 4. Niall O’Leary 5. Eoin Downey 6. Ciarán Joyce 7. Daire O’Leary 8. Mark Coleman 9. Ben O’Connor 10. Tim O’Mahoney 11. Darragh Fitzgibbon 12. Robbie O’Flynn 13. Shane Kingston 14. Declan Dalton 15. Alan Connolly
Not saying that’s wrong but looking at that team, the thing that jumps out at me is where are the 25-30 scores including 2-3 goals going to come from?
 
Not saying that’s wrong but looking at that team, the thing that jumps out at me is where are the 25-30 scores including 2-3 goals going to come from?
There’s a lot of consistent goal scorers in that team in people like Kingston, Dalton, Connolly and O’Mahoney. But I do agree on the point’s situation that could be the issue with that team, but i also think that points are sometimes more to do with the tactics and style of play rather than the players.
 
If there are some on here who think D.Fitz should not be at midfield it is easy to assume ye dont attend club matches.He is the best midfielder in Cork by a long way and i have seen enough of him over thew last few years.
D Fitz is outstanding for Charleville and does make a big claim to Centre field role for Cork. His one man display against the Barr’s in Mallow last year was out of this world I thought, for me it was the stand out individual performance of the year in 2022.
BUT, and this is a big part of Corks problem, the hurling that is styled, played & refereed in the Cork senior hurling championship bears little or no resemblance to that encountered at inter county level. So it can be argued that playing well in club hurling does not automatically transfer well to the inter county scene.
 
I'm not so sure about O'Mahony in a midfield role. Definitely worth trying there in the league, but to my mind he is a more limited player than some people suggest. I have never seen him as the kind of player who scraps for dirty ball or holds up opponents in the tackle. His concentration and positioning was a problem when he played in defence, and that might also be a factor at midfield. And I still think he tends to take big swings, making him vulnerable to being hooked. He brings big positives in terms of running with the ball and shielding it from his marker when he gets out in front to win it, so I agree that there should be a place for him in the front eight. But I also think he'll need a fair bit of coaching to smooth off the rough edges to his game.

In the league, I reckon he should get a game or two at midfield with O'Sullivan or Roche, but also spend time at wing-forward or FF.
Tend to agree with that. Will be a fascinating one to watch over the coming weeks as I still find it hard to peg him down in 1 particular role. I don’t think the open spaces of 6,8,9,11 suit him - he’s a bit quirky mentally and does the odd mad thing every so often. Then there’s been times over the last couple of years where he’s running in from the wing getting goals where he looks like one of the top hurlers in the country.

The defensive problems looked to be attitude / technique and probably fixable with Ryan & co (he has the physique and cutting). I’d probably land on 10 or 12 as his best position but we may need him at 5 again and with the arrival of Cunningham, Hayes, and return of Dalton, that might be ok
 
Tend to agree with that. Will be a fascinating one to watch over the coming weeks as I still find it hard to peg him down in 1 particular role. I don’t think the open spaces of 6,8,9,11 suit him - he’s a bit quirky mentally and does the odd mad thing every so often. Then there’s been times over the last couple of years where he’s running in from the wing getting goals where he looks like one of the top hurlers in the country.

The defensive problems looked to be attitude / technique and probably fixable with Ryan & co (he has the physique and cutting). I’d probably land on 10 or 12 as his best position but we may need him at 5 again and with the arrival of Cunningham, Hayes, and return of Dalton, that might be ok
I'd rather see him in an attacking role, either wing-forward or full-forward. Contrary to what you suggest, I'd say nowadays midfielders and centre-forwards have less room than players on the wings, as teams will drop their half-forwards deep and funnel towards the centre of the pitch to prevent runs at goal or shots for points from relatively easy positions (i.e., in front of the goal inside your own 65). It seems to me (just based on what I've observed) you're more likely to create one-on-ones on the wing or in the full-forward line with quick ball in. And I think that would suit O'Mahony best to be able to take on one man, as one of his great strengths is carrying the ball and this can be a liability if the opposition can swarm you.
 

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