That's where we disagree. I would have had no problem with Ryan staying on, but changes had to be made. If Ryan had been willing to do so, great (a d he should definitely have been the person to decide who stayed and who came in). But if he had not been willing to do so, then imo his position would have had to come into question.
Fair enough, i think we agree on the process but disagree on Pat being told he had to make changes if he wanted to stay on which is fine, different opinions are what makes this place go round
Again, this is not to say that I agree with how things were actually handled - afaik what exactly was said to Ryan has not been made public.
No it hasnt been made public, not even to the clubs, which is where I have an issue with the board, transparency is vital in situations like this
Had that final been a complete one-off I might have been inclined to agree. But it wasn't. That's what convinced me that large changes were necessary. As I say, I would have been quite happy if that had meant Ryan staying on but shaking up his backroom team.
Thats a fair comment, Clare in Munster and Limerick in Munster were 2 calamitous collapses, we kind of got out of jail in Ennis but we were opened up at full back like a soft block of butter, something I raised here beforehand and got the usual vitriolic responses for saying it
Limerick was really worrying in that it was a complete systems failure and a chastening hammering, i thought the dream was over that day but amazingly we turned the tables a few weeks later
The Dublin semi final did not help us, we were superb but Dublin were extremely naive in a way Tipp were never going to be in the final. A few of us aired our concerns the week of the final but we were drowned out by a sea of vitriotic chats about how much we were going to beat Tipp by
So yes looking at that year as a whole it was obvious something needed to change
I just dont think the board handled the aftermath as well as they should have
Indeed. And the harsh truth is that if there aren't clear improvements next year then in all likelihood Ben's position will come under scrutiny, and rightly so imo. (Unless he goes all-in on new players, or they are hit by the mother of all injury crises.)
I think Ben is a beaten docket if we dont come close to winning the all ireland next year, im holding back on saying we must win the all ireland for him to survive because i think we have regressed this year and the gap is too big without huge changes
I hope Ben gets us over the line but sadly im alot less convinced than I was 12 months ago, the amount of changes to management over the year has to raise serious questions but it is also an opportunity for Ben to retrieve the situation, lets hope he does
