Cork Footballers

[TravisBickle]

I saw Dublin v Cork 2 years ago (or was it 3 years ago) in a league game in Pairc Uí Rinn and Hurley damn near beat the Dubs on his own.

Yep and he could quickly catch fire with two pointers if given the chance Saturday.

 

[St fachtna]

I agree but I still wouldn't start o mahony think hes more of an impact coming in

I'd prob go with a combination of cronin Hurley and o mahony inside . Cronin has only been so so up to last sat . But a left legged free taker could be vital plus he was unlucky v Kerry in 2nd match . O mahony and Hurley are men that can break a tackle and that's vital

 

[St fachtna]

My team for the weekend

MM

SB DOM TW
SP MS MT

COC, IM

BOD SW PW
COM BH MC

Tommy Walsh won't make it

 

[bluesball]

Clearys problem as i see it is Sean Powter,does he play him at centre forward to break their defence or ask him to man mark C O Callaghan

 

[peopleluas]

The rule about impeding after the KO catch has been changed to a regular free - i.e. a reward for impeding the ball winner. Awful decision. This year has seen some of the best fielding I have ever seen 'cos it was properly rewarded - one particular Roscommon fellow had some amazing catches in the second half (not that I wanted him to be doing that!). The rule needed a minor tweak, but the counter-revolutionaries were - as they always are - waiting in the long grass for a ref to make a few mistakes and then pounced - knowing that the general GAA public are easy prey for that kind of thing because in general people are all for change except for the changes they get, and remain against the changes they get until the benefits are emphatically proven (human nature).

It changes things for Saturday too. If our players get that free, we'd better elect to play on as immediately as possible and drive forward so that at least the opposing player has to get out of the way then or risk the 50m for impeding the free. And we have to be ready for the Dubs doing the same.

 

[JimmyBarrySmurph]

The rule about impeding after the KO catch has been changed to a regular free - i.e. a reward for impeding the ball winner. Awful decision. This year has seen some of the best fielding I have ever seen 'cos it was properly rewarded - one particular Roscommon fellow had some amazing catches in the second half (not that I wanted him to be doing that!). The rule needed a minor tweak, but the counter-revolutionaries were - as they always are - waiting in the long grass for a ref to make a few mistakes and then pounced - knowing that the general GAA public are easy prey for that kind of thing because in general people are all for change except for the changes they get, and remain against the changes they get until the benefits are emphatically proven (human nature).

It changes things for Saturday too. If our players get that free, we'd better elect to play on as immediately as possible and drive forward so that at least the opposing player has to get out of the way then or risk the 50m for impeding the free. And we have to be ready for the Dubs doing the same.

I’m unsure and I haven’t seen the wording.
I hope and expect that it’s just that a player who is contesting a kickout can’t have the 50m free awarded against him. What happened in our game v Kerry was the only major issue that’s arisen with the new rules..
The big thing that Gavin and FRC wanted was more open contests for the football. That old rule was counter productive
So hopefully it’s just a bit of tidying up to prevent any repeat of guys contesting kickouts having 50m frees awarding against them

Once a player claims the kickout mark then the normal KO mark rules still apply. 4m etc.
I hope anyways

 

[peopleluas]

I’m unsure and I haven’t seen the wording.
I hope and expect that it’s just that a player that is contesting a kickout can’t have the 50m free awarded against him. What happened in our game v Kerry was the only major issue that’s arisen with the new rules..

That would be my preferred tweak, but that's not what was reported on RTE this morning.

 

[bluesball]

If i was coaching a team that had a good midfield with the old rule i would ask the midfielders and tell them when they claim the ball run at the nearest opponent ,get the free and it will be brought up 50 metres. Kerry got 8 points at least against us that way,heard Derek o Mahoney has given 14 free for this already this year.

 

[peopleluas]

If i was coaching a team that had a good midfield with the old rule i would ask the midfielders and tell them when they claim the ball run at the nearest opponent ,get the free and it will be brought up 50 metres.

I would do the exact same as you.

But I would also tell them to ensure that if an opposing player claims the ball, and they are not also themselves competing for it in the air, then they are not within 4 steps of where the opposing player lands or at least can get out of the way in time. That's what we are trying to achieve in the sport - that the player who claims the ball is not ambushed when he lands and instead gets a free run at it for 4 meters or whatever the exact rule distance is.

The flaw in the rule is that another player who competes in the air and does not claim the ball cannot get out of the way - he should also be rewarded for competing in the air by being allowed to tackle when he lands.

Kerry got 8 points at least against us that way

Indeed they did. One of them was certainly unfair. The one that happened right in front of me was certainly fair - the the Cork player made sure that he was accidentally-on-purpose impeding the ball winner - now he'll be rewarded 'cos the free will be right there and he was impeding to give the rest of the team time to mark up, and the free will help give them that time. The other two I'd have to watch back as I wasn't in a position to see when at the match, but I accept that the prevailing view was that they were unfair. The solution should have been to allow players competing in the air to tackle once on the ground.

Derek o Mahoney has given 14 free for this already this year

This is always the way with new rules. New rules aren't there to penalize infringement - they are there to change the way the game is played. I was at an u21 match where the first half was full of 50m free advancements for various things. The second half wasn't - it changed that quick - 'cos the players were told at half-time to change what they were doing, and they did. So the mere fact that there are a lot of cases of an infringement being penalized in a certain way is not, of itself, a reason to abandon that. Again, I agree that this rule needed a tweak, but removing the very effective 50m advancement aspect leaves the rule almost toothless.

 

[Cork99]