Cork Footballers

[peopleluas]

Can the full back take the kick out with the goalie at midfield

I think the goalie has to be in small sq in that case. They certainly thought of a lot of the ways around things...

 

[Shabby]

What I couldn't understand from the trial games was why teams didn't try to keep at least one forward nearly inside on top of the small rectangle when the opposition goalie had come out. They all seemed to ask their forwards to drop back close to the half way line, which seems totally pointless. It's a fantastic chance to add jeopardy. A quick turn over or misplaced pass, and long ball forward and it's nearly a probability of a goal. Even in the current rule set, I wondered why nobody ever tried it. It would have taken some of the casual nature out of the sideways foot passing if there was an opposition forward 30 yards behind you, even if you're down a man in defence.

I see what you’re saying and I’m sure we will see a lot of trial and error when it comes to ways to exploit each tactical tweak. I think it still condenses the pitch to have players drop to the 45, cuts off passing lanes etc to a point.

In turn it opens up huge space in front of the goal to boot the ball into and means defenders have further to run back to hop into goal if they mark their man out to the 45. It’ll be a very interesting league ahead and once tweaks are made I’m sure it’ll be for the betterment for the game.

 

[Glasaboy]

I see what you’re saying and I’m sure we will see a lot of trial and error when it comes to ways to exploit each tactical tweak. I think it still condenses the pitch to have players drop to the 45, cuts off passing lanes etc to a point.

In turn it opens up huge space in front of the goal to boot the ball into and means defenders have further to run back to hop into goal if they mark their man out to the 45. It’ll be a very interesting league ahead and once tweaks are made I’m sure it’ll be for the betterment for the game.

It’s going to be 6/7 up at either end. With a 7 a side teams in the middle..

 

[Cork99]

Should change the rule that goalie can’t go past his own 45

 

[random2404]

Should change the rule that goalie can’t go past his own 45

i agree, i feel like all this will completely ruin the position. The guy that is an exceptional goalie now but maybe not as agile out the field will be completely extinct and will be replaced by an athlete even tho the former is a better “goalkeeper”

You’ll obviously have the likes of Niall morgan and other goalies of his calibre not agree with what your suggesting and question why they should not be allowed to advance, but there is only so many goalkeepers of their kind, we certainly don’t have one in cork (as far as i’m are anyway).

Really, any goalkeeper that is upset that they would not be allowed to pass their own 45 should just be asked why not just play out the field if your going to spend the whole game out there anyway

 

[poulgorm]

Under the new rules, goalkeepers (I think) won't stray much beyond their 20 metre line. It will be simply too risky, with 3 opposition forwards inside the 65, at all times.
Currently, a goalkeeper can appear at midfield (and beyond) only because there are no opposition players between him and their own goal. By and large anyway.
Also, the fact that goalkeepers cannot now (effectively) play any part in the game, if they are outside the large square & inside their own 65, will change to goalkeeping scene to what it was before the possession game took over.
Which will suit Cork.
My tuppence worth.

 

[peopleluas]

Under the new rules, goalkeepers (I think) won't stray much beyond their 20 metre line. It will be simply too risky, with 3 opposition forwards inside the 65, at all times.
Currently, a goalkeeper can appear at midfield (and beyond) only because there are no opposition players between him and their own goal. By and large anyway.
Also, the fact that goalkeepers cannot now (effectively) play any part in the game, if they are outside the large square & inside their own 65, will change to goalkeeping scene to what it was before the possession game took over.
Which will suit Cork.
My tuppence worth.

Mostly true I think. A few might come out to contest opposition kick out.

 

[Shabby]

Should change the rule that goalie can’t go past his own 45

Don’t agree with this. I understand some people are old school and like the keeper to stay in goal but some of the most exciting moments in the last few years have come from the keepers drifting up the pitch.

It has either led to the keeper scoring which is always a good moment for the crowd or he gets caught out and there’s a goal scored while he’s on his travels. Either way it’s been very exciting.

What this new rule does is prevents the use of the keeper defensively and in a negative sense but entices him to come up the pitch and be an extra man. So we are likely to see more of the moments like those I’ve mentioned as a result and I think they’re good for the entertainment of the sport.

 

[peopleluas]

Don’t agree with this. I understand some people are old school and like the keeper to stay in goal but some of the most exciting moments in the last few years have come from the keepers drifting up the pitch.

It has either led to the keeper scoring which is always a good moment for the crowd or he gets caught out and there’s a goal scored while he’s on his travels. Either way it’s been very exciting.

What this new rule does is prevents the use of the keeper defensively and in a negative sense but entices him to come up the pitch and be an extra man. So we are likely to see more of the moments like those I’ve mentioned as a result and I think they’re good for the entertainment of the sport.

I completely agree that the development in recent years of the goalie coming out and taking a greater part in general play has been a very good development. As well as the advantages you mention, it has also led to the goalie position in club underage being a more attractive position than it had been previously.

I fear that the changes will restrict the goalie too much, but at least it may lessen the piggy-in-the-middle play that often takes place at the end of inter-county matches. The goalie may be kicking the ball out a fair bit more though - it would seem there will be a lot more shots at the posts.

 

[Glasaboy]

I think the game will innovate beyond recognition in the coming years. Massive impacts coming for the entire squad of players.
Encouraging to hear the likes of Gavin and Fitzmaurice as masters of the game explain all the game scenarios they ran through to get to these rules.
It’s going to be fascinating to see how the various rules play on the pitch in championship. The 3 at the back rotating is one that could cause carnage on the counter I think.
I hope and expect overall for a big positive. My only doubt is what the likes of McGuinness and the northern crews might do. The attempt at Opening up the game also creates an opportunity tactically to close it down even more. Interesting that supposedly he was one coach who did not engage at all with the process.