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[greengrass]

Too much time spent in the gym and / or with these S&C guys. 6 to 8 weeks pre season is imo ample time for this. After pre season it should be all on pitch.
Lads giving 3 to 4 nights training and then expected to do a gym program the other days is nuts.
The amount of lads I have heard in the last 2 years having their second acl surgery etc is crazy.
And it's all Footballers..I could be wrong on that.

Unfortunately there'll be no change until the rules of football favour the footballer and not the athlete. I'm hoping Gavin comes up with the goods ?

 

[WCJoe]

Unfortunately there'll be no change until the rules of football favour the footballer and not the athlete. I'm hoping Gavin comes up with the goods ?

Agree 100%

 

[Cork99]

Hopefully O’Mahony can stay injury free

 

[Jukka]

Too much time spent in the gym and / or with these S&C guys. 6 to 8 weeks pre season is imo ample time for this. After pre season it should be all on pitch.
Lads giving 3 to 4 nights training and then expected to do a gym program the other days is nuts.
The amount of lads I have heard in the last 2 years having their second acl surgery etc is crazy.
And it's all Footballers..I could be wrong on that.

There has to be something up. It's not a curse, it's a clear and undeniable trend going back over a decade now.

Our young footballers are also more likely to be dual club players, and face more demands in their early years, which could also be a factor.

 

[WCJoe]

There has to be something up. It's not a curse, it's a clear and undeniable trend going back over a decade now.

Our young footballers are also more likely to be dual club players, and face more demands in their early years, which could also be a factor.

This " Gym / S&C " is going on with a decade. The Players named above are all Footballers ( open to correction) not dual club players.
I'm hearing of clubs having 15/16 year olds starting gym programs. Nuts stuff.
Another problem I think is alot of these s&c guys have huge egos. ( not all but most) There is a place for them..pre season but they shouldn't be anywhere near a team after that.

 

[JimmyBarrySmurph]

I don’t know what it is with our young fellas getting career threating injuries. We don’t see it in other counties. You have corbett, Cathal o mah, Powter, Meehan, B. Hurley , Liam O Donovan…… i could continue. All this happened when these players are 19-23. There must be something there like

A combination of Students & Office jobs coupled with intense training schedules, self supervised S&C mid season, questionable nutrition, poor plyometrics & inadequate rest.
Even when a pro goes on holidays and lives an amateur lifestyle briefly their chance of injury goes through the roof on their return to pro lifestyle. This has prompted the NFL teams to start doing injury prevention things like “optional” summer holiday period training camps and the 1st team squad don’t really play in the pre season games any longer.

At the end of the day too it’s an unfortunate reality that some guys just don’t have the capacity in their bodies to take the stress and strain for elite sport. They might have the skill set or speed alright etc. Sure the game is littered with “if only” stories on talented players blighted by injury.

 

[WCJoe]

Another huge issue I have is who looks after the Players Mental Fitness/ Health whilst going through rehabilitation from such injuries. It's too much push push to get back on the pitch.
And Jimmy BM you are spot on..most of these players have easy / cushy jobs...how many do you hear these days that are up at 6am to get out to work.

 

[gallant1]

I also think sand base pitches are a factor for these injuries .Some of these pitches dont get watered enough and when in summer any dry spell at all these pitches are rock hard.

 

[Dagame]

I also think sand base pitches are a factor for these injuries .Some of these pitches dont get watered enough and when in summer any dry spell at all these pitches are rock hard.

Are we talking whole year out or could he be back by end of May would people think?Huge loss really esp when it da 2nd time

 

[peopleluas]

Mostly (though not completely) uneducated opinion from me on this issue (but that's what discussion is for!). Generalities about a general trend - can't be applied to any individual:

• Most these days are not working in jobs which involve hard (but not extreme) physical labour - the ultimate in S&C cross-training. Noel O'Leary didn't suffer too many injuries, albeit I acknowledge that a single data point does not constitute reliable evidence.
• Better feeding and better/prompter medical treatment when young - so growth is optimized and setbacks are minimized. So you end up with bigger players. But ligaments/tendons/joints have not been redesigned. It's like adding a turbo - enhanced performance but with faster wear and tear on the engine.
• Inadequate rest between extreme-intensity (i.e. training/matches), particularly when young.
• More games and longer playing season on average. Shur years ago the club championship was over for half the teams after one match! If you're not playing, you won't get injured.