Cork Footballers

[The long road]

Oh ffs

Don't know why you put those symbols .. There is a lot of truth and reality in what the previous posters have said . I can go back alot of years where Cork footballers have been rode .And I blame Pat Spillane for alot of it over the years .Constantly telling us all about the virtues of kerry footballers and all the rest were cynical..
This week before the match Ex Cork players (Counihan etc) should have been looking for fair play for Cork ..That's what kilkenny use do with Eddie Keher or Kerry with Spillane .. Its frustrating for Cork football supporters to be on the wrong end of the Referee every flipping year we play Kerry

 

[Bonbon12]

Don't know why you put those symbols .. There is a lot of truth and reality in what the previous posters have said . I can go back alot of years where Cork footballers have been rode .And I blame Pat Spillane for alot of it over the years .Constantly telling us all about the virtues of kerry footballers and all the rest were cynical..
This week before the match Ex Cork players (Counihan etc) should have been looking for fair play for Cork ..That's what kilkenny use do with Eddie Keher or Kerry with Spillane .. Its frustrating for Cork football supporters to be on the wrong end of the Referee every flipping year we play Kerry

Kerry have been getting away with this type of stuff for years. They're abit like the Tories in that they dictate the narrative wrt gaelic football. Their pundits are all over the media and their common refrain is Kerry are the purists, Kerry take it on the chin, kerry are the yardstick by which others can be measured. It's complete nonsense but it's never analysised or questioned. The it's not in our DNA shtick we had to listen to from O'connor and nobody said hang on there a second. Cork have unfortunately borne the brunt of this propaganda and will continue to do so until we rail against the kind of cynicism that was evident yesterday.

 

[rebel without a caus]

I predicted to Kerry friends that there would be some contentious refereeing decision(s) in this game that would help Kerry.
This is literally the case every time we play them.
You have to beat them and the referee.
The amount of times they rugby tackled our lads breaking up the field. Must have been 8 or 9 times. Where were the black cards for them????

 

[Norrback]

Had a great view upper south stand..probably repeating but my view; it was like a hand wrestling match and we matched them all the way, the missed frees and chances killed us..at least 4 of them were easy enough that you would be normally 75% sure if going over, penalty probably technically right if this new rule exists but nobody would have noticed if a free was given…Sherlock and Eighan M’s points were great, though Sherlock missed free was disappointing…We need to show consistency now in taking on Mayo..hopefully in Croke Park..(selfish reason)..Think it would give huge confidence if we actually beat Mayo ..overall more optimistic after the game than before..Agree Kerry are cynical and should have had at least 2 black cards ..We need to complain publicly about that so they don’t get away with it again..need to lose their fully false purist image bestowed on them by their pundits and other sycophants

 

[cork2030]

Kerry have been getting away with this type of stuff for years. They're abit like the Tories in that they dictate the narrative wrt gaelic football. Their pundits are all over the media and their common refrain is Kerry are the purists, Kerry take it on the chin, kerry are the yardstick by which others can be measured. It's complete nonsense but it's never analysised or questioned. The it's not in our DNA shtick we had to listen to from O'connor and nobody said hang on there a second. Cork have unfortunately borne the brunt of this propaganda and will continue to do so until we rail against the kind of cynicism that was evident yesterday.

One of the worst i have seen is 2002 semi final, Moynihan pulled and drag Colin Corkery for the first 50 mins, the ref gave no frees to Corkery who then got sent off!

 

[cork2030]

Guys, the lack of cards being issued for Kerry's constant (esp in second half) tactical fouling cost us a lot more than the penalty decision (which after all had a certain justice to it even though it's never given). It is of no benefit to us now to be talking about whether that peno should have been awarded. It is somewhat in our interest for there to be noise about the lack of cards issued for Kerry's tactical fouling.

But the most important thing is that, despite the disappointment at losing, we come away from today having come close, and having opportunity for improvement against Mayo. Anything could happen in this group yet.

I couldn't believe when Cork got the game back to 2 points with a few mins left that they left Kerry take a short kick out, Kerry held the ball for 2 mins before kicking a point

 

[cooldude]

One of the worst i have seen is 2002 semi final, Moynihan pulled and drag Colin Corkery for the first 50 mins, the ref gave no frees to Corkery who then got sent off!

To make that worse, Moynihan predicted in the media that he had plans for Corkery and Brian White from Wexford watched this all day and did nothing.
Yesterday's effort by Gough is hard to stomach also, when we consider that in the 2nd half Kerry players, mostly the forwards, were blown for fouls on 13 occasions.
Cork could still have won if we had forwards capable of scoring from 40 yards. Hurley is a poor free taker and even if McSweeney scored 2 points his last one is hard to explain when we needed it high in the square for a goal attempt.
We are improving but not good enough to beat Mayo IMHO.

 

[StJohner]

Lads, all this talk about being screwed by Gough is a bit ridiculous. The pen was justified for me. It’s in the rule book. Geaney may have been cute but Powter definitely dived in, either way it was 100% a goal scoring opportunity.

Bigger issue was the constant tactical fouling to disrupt Cork’s running game and allow Kerry get 15 men behind the ball. I did feel Gough was too lenient here.

Cork could have done with getting in Goughs ear after each foul. Particularly after the Moynihan high tackle. Or they could try doing a bit of tactical fouling themselves…

On the other side, the defensive display was really positive. O’Mahony was heroic and everytime I see Fahey, I’m more impressed with him. Reminds me of a pomp Noel O’Leary with his ball carrying!

O’Driscoll worked hard, pity about his rush of blood after that huge turnover. Midfield was more or less bypassed. Powter was excellent too.

Our over reliance on Brian Hurley is an issue though. He was almost trying too hard yesterday and to the detriment of the team. He’s over eager to get shots off. He’s not always going get the space to get 4pts from play, so on those days he needs to be the focal point and play others in. Agreed with whoever said that his game management (for a player of his experience) was poor.

Overall, this was probably about as good as I expected Cork would’ve done against Kerry. Just feel that if they were to meet again in Croke park, Kerry’s capacity for improvement is much greater than Cork’s.

For Cork, this year is about consistency and progression. We are seeing some level of consistency between the performance yesterday and last week, but we really need a big result against a top D1 team to prove that there is genuine progression…

 

[The Highway Man]

Lads Mayo are flaky as fuck. Another pressure off game , just go at them from throw in. Set up right. Have the best first 15 on from the start

 

[Jukka]

What's hard to take about the black card/peno is that it wouldn't have been given if it was the other way around. And if a Cork player clothes lined a Kerry player the way Paudie Clifford did you know it would have been a red (a worse/bigger decision than Powters imho).

Gough was happy to give us a good few handy frees, but didn't want to make a decision with any real implications for Kerry. Referees have long been conditioned to it.

But our players and leadership need to know what expect and know how press the ref on it. If Kerry players are blocking quick frees take the 10 yards and demand an explanation if it's not awarded.