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Cork city has gone to the dogs.

ThatFella said:
They could enforce something alright.
Off Licenses are subject to planning etc - how vapes cannot be included is a strange one - also how a lot of these shops sell drug paraphernalia.
I will stand corrected but is there not some sort of planning law/bylaw of saturation of market or saturation of a service?
Personally I think the council won't budge due to the rates these shops pay and also in turn makes the city look less derelict.
Building Dereliction % will be down on their reports so looks well then.

Cork City Council can and do have powers to introduce by laws - however as bylaw are only bylaw a company could take their planning application to higher powers to over-rule bylaw
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Off licenses sell alcohol. Theres bags of legislation covering that. Vape shops don't so it's irrelevant.

You can't introduce a bylaw if its blatantly not legally sound i.e. not going to thrown out be a judge. Councillors wont back it, especially those who are not independent and are under a party whip.

I'm not on the council's side I'm just saying their hands are tied in what they can do to prevent or close Vape shops. Vape shops and their suppliers can argue that they have a legal right to sell a legal product.

The council can absolutely do something about how awful they look. That's a different matter. But they don't do anything about the state of those places unless there are formal planning complaints about them that they are the obliged to reply to. i.e. you have to fill out the planning complaint form on their website which takes about 10-15 mins and not post on their Facebook page or instagram.

A lot of people don't seem to understand that basic process.
 
Coach and Six said:
Off licenses sell alcohol. Theres bags of legislation covering that. Vape shops don't so it's irrelevant.

You can't introduce a bylaw if its blatantly not legally sound i.e. not going to thrown out be a judge. Councillors wont back it, especially those who are not independent and are under a party whip.

I'm not on the council's side I'm just saying their hands are tied in what they can do to prevent or close Vape shops. Vape shops and their suppliers can argue that they have a legal right to sell a legal product.

The council can absolutely do something about how awful they look. That's a different matter. But they don't do anything about the state of those places unless there are formal planning complaints about them that they are the obliged to reply to. i.e. you have to fill out the planning complaint form on their website which takes about 10-15 mins and not post on their Facebook page or instagram.

A lot of people don't seem to understand that basic process.
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How’s that Vape shop going for ya CoachY?
 
Coach and Six said:
Off licenses sell alcohol. Theres bags of legislation covering that. Vape shops don't so it's irrelevant.

You can't introduce a bylaw if its blatantly not legally sound i.e. not going to thrown out be a judge. Councillors wont back it, especially those who are not independent and are under a party whip.

I'm not on the council's side I'm just saying their hands are tied in what they can do to prevent or close Vape shops. Vape shops and their suppliers can argue that they have a legal right to sell a legal product.

The council can absolutely do something about how awful they look. That's a different matter. But they don't do anything about the state of those places unless there are formal planning complaints about them that they are the obliged to reply to. i.e. you have to fill out the planning complaint form on their website which takes about 10-15 mins and not post on their Facebook page or instagram.

A lot of people don't seem to understand that basic process.
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Yes but vapes are now replacing smoking which as you say has bags of legislation.
The government are currently putting legislation in place around vapes as well.

There is as I said what I believe to be planning laws that are legally sound as regards over saturation of a service/market.
As other posters have contributed the City Council have came down on businesses with other nonsense.

I agree with everything you say as well by the way, very good points.
 
Is the “all vape shops are a front for money laundering” story turning into a bit of an old wives tale ?

Surely if that was the case then they would be under extra scrutiny from a tax assessment point of view ?
 
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Browser Brody said:
Is the “all vape shops are a front for money laundering story turning into a bit of an old wives tale ?

Surely if that was the case then they would be under extra scrutiny from a tax assessment point of view ?
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Era 50/50 as I said some of these shops sell all the drug paraphernalia and the ones that stay open to a ridiculous hour at night - questionable to say the least.
 
There's a vape shop/convenience store literally either side of Preacher's on Washington St.

Seems like a weird business plan to open up within two doors of the competition.
 
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