Batsh*t Crazy Green Party

[Clubber_Langer]

You give me the solution you see as fixing this, unless you are simply proposing that we revert to 1970's standards

Why do you keep going on about 50 years ago. no one has suggested this. its grand honky you think the parking requirements and densities are working fine and dont want to accept its causing problems. I disagree. going back to a 1.5 per unit requirement would be viable in all but very centralised developments. planners insisting on lower parking requirements in out of town developments with space for parking makes little sense but as I already said its symptomatic of the one size fits all approach to irish planning

 

[Clubber_Langer]

It does work, it just doesn't suit everyone. You seem to have an issue with simple physics. You can't have two things that are mutually exclusive. You can call me comrade, or (hilariously) belittle De_mangey's knowledge of planning, but none of this makes what you want to be true, true. It's toddler logic.

M8 if my posts upset you so much just stick me on ignore. simples.

 

[Clubber_Langer]

I checked the Constitution, and I'm sorry to tell you there is no right to private parking.

Parking on the roadside is also not private parking

How thrilling for you.

 

[Ogre Moran]

And some Greeners wonder why they're not popular in the polls

It makes you wonder why FFG are also not more unpopular. They instituted these policies in the last government alongside the Greens and continue to so on their own now.

 

[Happyhonkaman]

Why do you keep going on about 50 years ago. no one has suggested this. its grand honky you think the parking requirements and densities are working fine and dont want to accept its causing problems. I disagree. going back to a 1.5 per unit requirement would be viable in all but very centralised developments. planners insisting on lower parking requirements in out of town developments with space for parking makes little sense but as I already said its symptomatic of the one size fits all approach to irish planning

Your argument isn't stacking up. City centre sites are the ones with the best access to public transport, local services etc etc so they get the biggest dispensations for parking. Sites further out have less access to all of these things and therefore require more parking. So all of this already accords with what you want.

What you dont like is that these schemes dont have 1.5 car spaces for every unit, but they can't have because they simply dont fit unless the density is reduced, and if the density is reduced prices climb and availability drops.. but you get parking spaces

Heres a simple visualisation - your typical 70/80s semi D was 2 storey and about 8m wide, so it fit 2 cars in front of it if you took away a chunk of the garden. A typical semi D now is 3 storey unit 5m wide. This is exactly 2 car spaces wide in a lines on the tarmac shopping centre sense, but doesn't allow any room for a path to the front door, bins, bike storage, and some planting for privacy/biodiversity etc, so in reality they fit 1 car in front. Where are you even putting all of these additional cars? To satisfy your need we must go back to wider units = less houses, is that what you are looking for?

 

[White Van Man]

I fully understand the reasoning , it just doesn't work. we are only having this discussion in response to the problems its already causing. youve sidestepped my question as in answering it you are admitting that someone who bought at the right time should enjoy more autonomy than someone who is trying to buy now. unrealistic density requirements and lack of parking is going to create further serious problems.

If someone wasn’t in the right place at the right time for something good to happen to them - tough shit. You can be consumed with jealousy or feel hard done by…but what good does that do?

That doesn’t just apply to buying a house by the way. That girl that fucked some other guy instead of you, or you didn’t answer the RedFm cash call in time. Life’s full of missed opportunities

 

[jeepers]

M8 if my posts upset you so much just stick me on ignore. simples.

I don't know why I respond to you as if you're debating in good faith. I suppose I just believe that everyone is capable of personal growth. I will take your advice and put you on ignore.

 

[Yermon]

I believe the planning was granted for the Railyard or whatever it’s called on the basis that it was to be a bike friendly building. There will be bike parking, but no car parking.

The apartments currently being built behind the Cross Douglas Road ran into planning problems over the originally projected amount of parking spaces, and they had to revise their numbers downward.

And you all should see the plans for the bus corridor going in towards town from Bellair junction. There going to be a lot of onstreet parking going bye bye

Will the corpo have to provide alternative parking spaces for residents or will they just all go across to St Finbarr's Hospital? No harm some of them opposite the Hospital are taken away, it's impossible for oncoming traffic to pass each other currently with the way some of them park

 

[Yermon]

I don't know why I respond to you as if you're debating in good faith. I suppose I just believe that everyone is capable of personal growth. I will take your advice and put you on ignore.

This whole "you're not debating in good faith" trope was introduced here by someone being beaten in a debate and it was their fancy way of giving up without admitting they were defeated. And it seems to have snowballed since then. Very sad state of affairs imho

 

[White Van Man]

Will the corpo have to provide alternative parking spaces for residents or will they just all go across to St Finbarr's Hospital? No harm some of them opposite the Hospital are taken away, it's impossible for oncoming traffic to pass each other currently with the way some of them park

The plan I saw was that the front of st Finbarr’s will be taken for parking spaces (30 spaces if I recall). High street will have most of its parking removed too from what I remember.

Parking across the road from the hospital is ridiculous. If I lived in one of those houses it’s the last place I’d park