Analytics in Football - Official Thread

[Philby]

Martin O'Neill: "Expected goals (xG) is total nonsense. You’ve got to remember what the game is about: winning football matches, and that means scoring goals, not recording the expectation of them. It’s a clueless development. Some people just use these words to try to sound clever."

Who is right? A successful player and manager or social lepers like Kloudy and Philomena?

Awful segment from Martin & Matt Cooper on TodayFM yesterday.

Matt: "...how do they even calculate it?"

Martin: "I've no idea. I've genuinely no idea. Expected goals? It's like Expected Crowd. What crowd are you going to get into a game?"

MON's opinion on the topic is meaningless as he clearly hasn't even taken the entry level step of educating himself on what xG means at the absolute simplest level.

For a supposedly smart guy he's shown himself up there.

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

Awful segment from Martin & Matt Cooper on TodayFM yesterday.

Matt: "...how do they even calculate it?"

Martin: "I've no idea. I've genuinely no idea. Expected goals? It's like Expected Crowd. What crowd are you going to get into a game?"

MON's opinion on the topic is meaningless as he clearly hasn't even taken the entry level step of educating himself on what xG means at the absolute simplest level.

For a supposedly smart guy he's shown himself up there.

 

[Philby]

A bit old, but nonetheless interesting

#29 – Player Contracts and Performance

Players usually get to sign a new contract for one of two reasons: 1. Sustained increase in performance 2. Transferred to a new club Both of these are two sides of the same coin where some kind of …

thelastmananalytics.home.blog

 

[Philby]

This is wild, if it's even vaguely true.

Instinctively it feels a little unrealistic

https://twitter.com/x/status/1978850945879494877

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

0.17 per 90 feels way too low for the expected number.

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

Understat versus everybody else's xG figures for the United v Liverpool match are wild.

I'll have to have a look later at the individual shots to see what the differences are.

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

Mbeumo's goal: 0.33 vs 0.23
Mount 26': 0.55 vs 0.13
Mbeumo 26': 0.53 vs 0.13
Maguire's goal: 0.24 vs 0.09
de Ligt 87': 0.54 vs 0.43

Can somebody remind me of the Mbeumo and Mount chances >0.5? They were so significant that Sky didn't even include them in their highlights!

By the way, Lolpool didn't have a single shot at level game state. 0 - 0.39 was the xG tally there.

 

[Philby]

The irony of you bringing your unique brand of shit-posting to this particular thread yet again to tell us that. You spoon.

 

[Philby]

Here's a spoon.

Eat Kloudy's ass.

You seem to be going heavy on the homosexual content on here these days.

Are you in a relationship currently?

Feeling lonely?

 

[Philby]

I am. His name is Steve.

Go spend some quality time with Steve then and stop pestering us bud