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Analytics in Football - Official Thread

Case in point, Aguero looks far more productive than Shearer from what I can see (correct me if I'm wrong m8s, if there's a dyslexia for graphs, I have it).

Ya. There are plenty more examples like that. It's the nature of the beast when you work with averages.

No doubt the graph would get closer to passing the eye test if something was done to avoid penalising the PL lifers.

I've got access to the code in R (a language I've never used) but might see if I can use ChatGPT to convert it to Python and tweak the data in-line with our thinking.

I'd take prime Shearer over prime Aguero myself though.

Me too. He's a bit more rounded as a striker than Aguero - but no doubt that during their peak years they were two of the most lethal strikers the league has seen.

Still...I think it does lend further weight to the view that Henry is the best the PL has seen - when you balance out scoring & creating over a significant time period.
 
@Nollaig O Muracu others were thinking along similar lines.

Below is a similar view across the big 5 leagues (period: 1999/00 - 2023/24) which focuses in on guys who had at least 4-5 high-performing seasons and plots them based only on their output in those seasons.

In the week where Luis Suarez retires from international football it underlines just how elite a performer he was. In most eras w/o CR7 and Messi he'd have a decent claim at being the best player in the world during his Barca and late-Liverpool period. Arguably there may have been a season or two at Barca where he was at least as good as one of them (or both).

The graph shows the average Non-Penalty Goals per 90 minutes and the average Assists per 90 minutes over the 5 best Top-5-League seasons of these players. The 5 best league seasons were defined by me as the 5 seasons with the highest Non-Penalty Goals + Assists per 90 minutes ratio, but only seasons in which the player played at least 12 90s (= 1080 minutes) are up for consideration. If a player only had 5 such seasons, all these 5 will be considered as the 5 peak seasons, and if a player had 4 seasons with enough game time, these 4 were considered as the peak seasons. If a player had less than 4 seasons with 1080 minutes, then he was not included in the graph.


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Suarez was phenomenal from day one. He was absolutely ridiculous with Ajax, was probably involved in all of the 157 goals per season they scored while he was there.

So were a lot of guys who bombed when they made it to a big league.

He needed to do the business in the PL to get the recognition.
 
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