2025 Premier Senior Football Championship

[TonyCork80]

Perhaps others haven't been consistent @TonyCork80, but I believe I have been.

If I were on the sideline at the match I'd almost certainly be yelling at the ref too (even though perhaps that's not right or fair) in an effort to do everything possible to influence him with the goal of a Barrs win. Supporters definitely impact ref decisions. But from a more detached reference point, while rule changes are fine, I don't want a change to the rule that would dilute its effect - and the general effect of the rule has been outstanding and I don't think this case merits changing the rule. Which is my motivation for posting, along with defending the ref who I believe made a decision which was reasonable in the circumstance of him not seeing the push on Maguire.

Ah you have been in fairness to you and I don't doubt your bona fides for a second.

I do think though that just as with the split season, the fact that the FRC recommendations have been an overwhelming success doesn't mean they don't cause problems of their own and should never be finessed.

 

[TonyCork80]

It was incredible, roll out Maurice deegan and have him come out with the great line it was a free even if the Dingle player made a meal of it…..outstanding stuff

I loved that one in particular. That was a highlight.

 

[peopleluas]

the fact that the FRC recommendations have been an overwhelming success doesn't mean they don't cause problems of their own and should never be finessed.

I absolutely agree with that. Indeed I believe that it's very important that the rules are changed in order to keep the game that we want whilst at the same time appropriately protecting players. And it would be better if from now on the GAA changed the rules on a continual basis, each time making smaller incremental changes. The FRC was great, but the fact that we'd waited until things got to total shit meant that a lot of rules then had to be changed at once - far from ideal.

 

[bluesball]

No mention on here of the foul on Wiggington Barrett that was clearly in the square but only a free was given

 

[peopleluas]

BTW, not that it matters a jot in this case, people are also saying that the ref didn't advance it the full 50m. If they note that the pitch is 145m long, and remember their Pythagoras theorem and get out the calculator, then they'll see that it was advanced pretty much bang on 50m towards the goal.

 

[peopleluas]

No mention on here of the foul on Wiggington Barrett that was clearly in the square but only a free was given

Indeed. A perfect illustration of how a ref (or player) decision or mistake, which would have had the same effect on the match outcome, causes less controversy if it happens earlier in the match and more controversy the closer it occurs to the end of the match (though I didn't see the match so I don't know how earlier the Barrett case happened).

 

[Fox Leary]

No mention on here of the foul on Wiggington Barrett that was clearly in the square but only a free was given

come off it....ye'll be calling for a replay next! Just take a leaf out of Sherlock and JBMs book - accept defeat and move on.

Yes the rule is harsh but the better team won, ye shat the course in the last 15, didn't score and gave up a 9 point lead. It was an epic meltdown. It happens, get over it and stop blaming the ref.

 

[RealerNRealer]

It was incredible, roll out Maurice deegan and have him come out with the great line it was a free even if the Dingle player made a meal of it…..outstanding stuff

Deegan also saying they were lucky the ref didn't bring it up the right distance of 50m, so that the free would of been in the arc, which of course would of been a shorter kick to level the game, But Deegan of course knows that Geaney would of 100% opted to bring it out to kick a 2 pointer anyway "He was still going to have a go at the two-pointer regardless"

 

[West Cork Gaol]

2026 champion draw tonight. Anyone have the seedings?

 

[Corkonian1]

If there was any acknowledgement of incompetence, bias or lack of accountability there wouldn't be near the amount of criticism. There will always be some criticism on someone constantly in the public domain, it comes with the territory. If one can't live with it then don't be a manager, player or ref.

Apparently referees don't get a bob for reffing an AI final. Their association and the GAA have that agreement with the thinking that the honour of reffing a final is high enough reward. If the GAA respect them so much why not pay them and more for a final instead of giving them nothing and dictating to them how to ref such an event. A ref gets expenses only on the 3rd weekend of July and 1st weekend of August. Yet referees get a going rate of €50 from each club to ref a challenge match between 2 senior/intermediate rural clubs a short distance apart and hierarchy doesn't bat an eye lid. This illustrates the control Croker has over referees and this domineering mentality eventually filters down from refs to players. This is the sickening culture that is common in officiating our games.

For someone like yourself who highly regard psychology in our games you really do an overkill on the amateur issue. We were hearing from John Allen as far back as 1999 how professional the games are gone and you are also referring to high profile managers, a fair contradiction on the amateur ethos.

I'd love to know who the psychologist was for Aaron Hill when he was playing the amateur Snooker ranking tournaments all over the country before he eventually turned pro. It should really give us a perspective on our Gaelic games.

Henry's Fonda

Here is my post, when you read the paragraph in bold where do I imply you stated refs don't get paid fees for AI finals? It was I who stated apparently that is the case, I never stated you did same.