2025 Premier Senior Football Championship

[Fox Leary]

Some of the current players you mention grew up in an underage structure where it wasn't 50/50 , so i appreciate your view point. Its very balanced now as age group coaching groups have a lot of autonomy. That is why we are seeing the success with the current minor group in both codes and more of that will come through in the next few years. The underage structure is going to be the template to get to Newcestown's Level with the next generation. Getting Intercounty hurlers down into the club was a master stroke and will inspire the young and help to getting us up there. The more kids wanting to play gaelic games in the community can only benefit the club as a whole in both codes. We just need the older generation to embrace and trust us blowins.

The blowins are doing good work with the hurling but need to cognisant of the existing parameters within the club.

The overriding priority is to win senior football counties, and to be a successful senior football team, you need 3 field sessions per week, every week, that much is non-negotiable. Otherwise you aren’t on a level footing with the teams you’re competing with: Nemo, Haven, etc.

Newcestown are a great club but have never come close to winning a senior county in either code. Who knows how successful they might be if they were to prioritise one code.

Hurling needs to be taken seriously in Clon as we have some incredible talent but I can guarantee it will die on the vine if over exuberant hurling men try to push a 50/50 agenda. And it won’t be old foggies who put a pin in the balloon, it will be the players, I can absolutely assure you off that. The minor players that are coming through now will be indoctrinated into the same senior football culture, no question. And if a well meaning Clare or Tipp man try to tell them they can’t train football for a week, they will tell him to fuck right off.

 

[Fox Leary]

Fox will the bar be open for the game

Our club executive are incredibly commercially savvy and will be recognise that matchgoers from a socioeconomically deprived area like Togher will be a soft target for alcohol sales. So yes, we will happily take yer dole money

 

[Random boi]

The blowins are doing good work with the hurling but need to cognisant of the existing parameters within the club.

The overriding priority is to win senior football counties, and to be a successful senior football team, you need 3 field sessions per week, every week, that much is non-negotiable. Otherwise you aren’t on a level footing with the teams you’re competing with: Nemo, Haven, etc.

Newcestown are a great club but have never come close to winning a senior county in either code. Who knows how successful they might be if they were to prioritise one code.

Hurling needs to be taken seriously in Clon as we have some incredible talent but I can guarantee it will die on the vine if over exuberant hurling men try to push a 50/50 agenda. And it won’t be old foggies who put a pin in the balloon, it will be the players, I can absolutely assure you off that. The minor players that are coming through now will be indoctrinated into the same senior football culture, no question. And if a well meaning Clare or Tipp man try to tell them they can’t train football for a week, they will tell him to fuck right off.

I’m surprised a club of Clon’s stature has not implemented a long term strategy to be the dominant hurling club as well as currently being the dominant football club in the county. I would have expected the strategic analyst department of the club to identify population growth in the area extracted from CSO data to develop a model detailing the potential player pool in the area. From there the coaching and the strategic implementation departments develop coaching and resource allocation in both codes to develop dominant underage teams in both codes which leads to senior county doubles in the town. Are you telling me this is not being done by such a forward looking club?

 

[Fox Leary]

Your reply is suggesting that Clon players are somehow limited that they cant go out one week and go hard for football and the next week go hard in hurling. Both the Barrs and Newcestown have proved it is possible, even the Haven have proved it is possible. This approach has battle hardened these clubs players. The current approach has only yielded 3 county final appearances in 30 years and we have stared relegation almost as many. Don't worry our well meaning men have it all in hand and we wont leave you out either.

The Barrs and the Haven have a crossover of approximately 3/4 guys playing both codes. Not in any way comparable to Newcestown. And like I said Newcestown, as impressive a club as they are haven’t come within an asses roar of a county.
Your denigration of football in the club is silly and has you showing your true colours, and will land you in hot water at the club AGM rest assured. I won’t take the bate and go for the low hanging fruit of mocking our hurlers performances in junior county on the occasions we have won Flyer Nyhan. Because I am a Clon GAA man, you’re clearly a Clon (via Tipp) hurling only man.

Dont worry we’ll hear you out, as will the players when you talk about a 50/50 approach, then we’ll give you a pat on the head and give each other a knowing smirk behind your back, while we retain the status quo of seeking high performance at senior football level, and you tear your hair out and whinge because you have 8 guys at your hurling sessions and senior footballers won’t turn up for you until the week before championship.

 

[bluesball]

Spoken like a TRUE GAA man

 

[Fox Leary]

I think it unfair to be casting limitations on the up and coming players to be able to excel in both codes. News flash they are already doing it. We are already building the structures to support high performing athletes in both codes. Yes the current players hold the jersey for now and they can choose what they want to play. But the up and coming players are already happy to play both and that's what the coaching structure has supported and they are the future. Not every player needs to play both codes and the population is there to support that. I appreciate your fear and anxiety but you don't need to worry, just trust, we have already made the necessary adjustments in the underage coaching to support a 50/50 approach.

Like I said, we’ll give you the little pat on the head and tell you go for your 50/50 approach and plough on with our high performance football culture regardless. Don’t be too disheartened and throw your toys out of the pram (like others before you) when you have 7 guys at your hurling sessions and the senior footballers are laughing at you when you tell them then they need to hurl every week.

If you can fit your hurling around the football, great, but you won’t find too many senior footballers who’ll swap the glamour of being a senior footballer with the biggest club in Cork for playing Randal Og and Mathunas in front of crowds of 100 people in the junior A hurling championship You’ll soon find this out though when our minor stars do the same as every other dual star we’ve ever produced.

Don’t come crying to me and say I didn’t tell you that you should played ball and abided by the God given rule in Clon: FOOTBALL IS NUMERO UNO

 

[St fachtna]

Some logical points made here.

Nemo I would suggest are the top ranked team at the moment. Man for man they have the best defence in the county. Well placed to make a county final.

You could argue either way in terms of who should be positioned second. Haven were the best team by a country mile for the last 2.5 years so cruel to suggest one game knocks them two places? I was at the game in Rossmore myself on Sunday and the wind played havoc. It made it anyones game and Newcestown had more energy about them. Playing with the wind in the second half was a big bonus for Newcestown. Two very organised teams. Impressed with Newcestown. Mick Hennessy making a big impression there.

Newcestown best placed of the rest.

Hard to argue with the rest for the rankings. Nothing between teams positioned 5 - 8.

Newcestown to beat Carrigaline in the quarters. Carrigaline don't have a stand out man marking back to manage what Buckley will bring. Newcestown will cause Nemo issues in the semi final with the way they defend but Newcestown rely to much on Buckley for scores. Nemo will shut that down and win by 6.

On the other side of the draw. Divisions are struggling. Ballincolligs reward finishing as worst qualifier from the groups is a game against arguably the weakest team left in the competition. Ballincollig to win and get to a semi final.

Barrs Haven is so hard to call. Ballincollig will give both a game in the semi final but you would expect winner of Barrs Haven to come through.

Nemo to win it out for me.

Would nemo handle haven in a potential final assuming both get there

 

[red&blue]

The Barrs and the Haven have a crossover of approximately 3/4 guys playing both codes.

Tell that to Jamie Burns, Billy Hennessy, Ciaran Doolan, Bill O Connell, Ethan Twomey, William Buckley, John Wiggington Barrett and Brian Hayes plus of course the 3 Cahalane brothers you utter fool

 

[red&blue]

Respectfully the culture in the club has changed. At underage level the codes are 50/50, football one week, hurling the next, the kids see them as equal sports. That is the mentality of the next generation that will transition to adult level in the next couple of years. If the bickering at adult level could stop there’s no reason why in 10 years the club could be playing at the same grade in both codes. We have the growth and numbers in the town to sustain both without conflict with the right vision. We can surpass Newcestown.

im sure the great football men like FoxyTravis could keep Clon at Intermediate level by then to meet yer hurlers as ye ascend up the grades

 

[Jukka]

There's a separate thread on the junior hurling. Maybe this thread could be used for discussing teams still competing in this competition?