2023 Senior A hurling

From the most recent census . The likes of Carrigaline , Cobh and a few others seem to be seriously underperforming while Bride Rovers , Kanturk and Charleville look like they are over achieving when based on playing numbers in catchment area anyway !

Suburb population numbers seem to be assessed differently so Glanmire , Ballincollig etc difficult to see accurate numbers for

Bandon , population 8,200
Bantry , 3,000
Carrigaline , 18,200
Carrigtohill , 5,600
Charleville , 4,000
Clonakilty , 5,200
Cloyne 2,000
Cobh 14,200
Crosshaven 3,300
Dunmanway 2,000
Fermoy , 6,700
Kanturk , 2,800
Kinsale , 6,000
Macroom , 4,100
Mallow , 13,500
Midleton, 14,000
Mitchelstown , 3,800
Passage , 6,100
Rathcormac , 2,000
Skibereen , 3,000
Youghal , 8,600
 
From the most recent census . The likes of Carrigaline , Cobh and a few others seem to be seriously underperforming while Bride Rovers , Kanturk and Charleville look like they are over achieving when based on playing numbers in catchment area anyway !

Suburb population numbers seem to be assessed differently so Glanmire , Ballincollig etc difficult to see accurate numbers for

Bandon , population 8,200
Bantry , 3,000
Carrigaline , 18,200
Carrigtohill , 5,600
Charleville , 4,000
Clonakilty , 5,200
Cloyne 2,000
Cobh 14,200
Crosshaven 3,300
Dunmanway 2,000
Fermoy , 6,700
Kanturk , 2,800
Kinsale , 6,000
Macroom , 4,100
Mallow , 13,500
Midleton, 14,000
Mitchelstown , 3,800
Passage , 6,100
Rathcormac , 2,000
Skibereen , 3,000
Youghal , 8,600
Super info.
With only the odd exception every now and then the county towns of Cork contribute very little towards the Cork senior hurling team.
Kanturk is a serious sporting hub in recent years.
 
From the most recent census . The likes of Carrigaline , Cobh and a few others seem to be seriously underperforming while Bride Rovers , Kanturk and Charleville look like they are over achieving when based on playing numbers in catchment area anyway !

Suburb population numbers seem to be assessed differently so Glanmire , Ballincollig etc difficult to see accurate numbers for

Bandon , population 8,200
Bantry , 3,000
Carrigaline , 18,200
Carrigtohill , 5,600
Charleville , 4,000
Clonakilty , 5,200
Cloyne 2,000
Cobh 14,200
Crosshaven 3,300
Dunmanway 2,000
Fermoy , 6,700
Kanturk , 2,800
Kinsale , 6,000
Macroom , 4,100
Mallow , 13,500
Midleton, 14,000
Mitchelstown , 3,800
Passage , 6,100
Rathcormac , 2,000
Skibereen , 3,000
Youghal , 8,600

Actually forgot about how little Kinsale are contributing to Cork Gaa
 
From the most recent census . The likes of Carrigaline , Cobh and a few others seem to be seriously underperforming while Bride Rovers , Kanturk and Charleville look like they are over achieving when based on playing numbers in catchment area anyway !

Suburb population numbers seem to be assessed differently so Glanmire , Ballincollig etc difficult to see accurate numbers for

Bandon , population 8,200
Bantry , 3,000
Carrigaline , 18,200
Carrigtohill , 5,600
Charleville , 4,000
Clonakilty , 5,200
Cloyne 2,000
Cobh 14,200
Crosshaven 3,300
Dunmanway 2,000
Fermoy , 6,700
Kanturk , 2,800
Kinsale , 6,000
Macroom , 4,100
Mallow , 13,500
Midleton, 14,000
Mitchelstown , 3,800
Passage , 6,100
Rathcormac , 2,000
Skibereen , 3,000
Youghal , 8,600
Crosshaven seem to be brewing something. They're stronger now than I ever remember at underage with decent teams and numbers coming through albeit at the younger ages and therefore not yet showing in Rebel Óg competitions. The draw of rugby and soccer may hold them back somewhat though.

Passage too, from my casual observation, seem to be on the cusp of bringing through some very good players. You'd certainly see more mention of their players on schools and development teams etc. than in recent years. Seem to have good numbers at younger age groups too.

It's no small task, particularly for non-traditionally strong clubs, to build an adult team that will bring you up the grades when things have perhaps fallen by the wayside. Bride, Kanturk and Charleville in particular are to be commended on their achievement in that regard.

I'd estimate it's a process that takes 20 years plus of continuous effort (plus a little luck) to come to fruition.
 
Crosshaven seem to be brewing something. They're stronger now than I ever remember at underage with decent teams and numbers coming through albeit at the younger ages and therefore not yet showing in Rebel Óg competitions. The draw of rugby and soccer may hold them back somewhat though.

Passage too, from my casual observation, seem to be on the cusp of bringing through some very good players. You'd certainly see more mention of their players on schools and development teams etc. than in recent years. Seem to have good numbers at younger age groups too.

It's no small task, particularly for non-traditionally strong clubs, to build an adult team that will bring you up the grades when things have perhaps fallen by the wayside. Bride, Kanturk and Charleville in particular are to be commended on their achievement in that regard.

I'd estimate it's a process that takes 20 years plus of continuous effort (plus a little luck) to come to fruition.
I spoke with a man from Charleville back in 2011, the year they won the Junior A County Final v Mayfield and beat Kildorrery in a winners take all Avondhu Final. The year before, they lost to Churchtown (before LC Gaels were formed) in the Avondhu Semi Final.


I asked this man how did they turn their fortunes around. He said it was the influx of talent that came into the squad in 2011. Players such as Andrew Cagney, James O' Brien, Gavin Kelleher, Mark Kavanagh and Alan Dennehy came of age. They beat Shandrum in the North Cork U21 A hurling final the same year. He said that they knew from Under 8s that this group were strong so did their best to keep them together.


He also mentioned at the time that they had an equally strong group of players at Under 14 back in 2011. They were well flagged in advance as a very strong team. Darragh Fitz, Darren Butler, Finbarr Cagney, Jack Doyle, Jack Barry, Cian Collins and Jack O' Callaghan were part of this group of players. Many of their best coaches kept this group going from Under 6 all the way up to Under 21.


So essentially, Charleville had two excellent underage teams playing at Premier Level and nourished them and developed them into really good adult hurlers. Obviously Charleville had great players already like Danny O' Flynn, Mervyn Gammell, Alan O' Connor and Dessie Fitzgerald who were top hurlers and great influences for the next generation of hurlers in the town. But their success increased once those 2 great underage teams grew and developed and blended into their adult team.
 
Crosshaven seem to be brewing something. They're stronger now than I ever remember at underage with decent teams and numbers coming through albeit at the younger ages and therefore not yet showing in Rebel Óg competitions. The draw of rugby and soccer may hold them back somewhat though.

Passage too, from my casual observation, seem to be on the cusp of bringing through some very good players. You'd certainly see more mention of their players on schools and development teams etc. than in recent years. Seem to have good numbers at younger age groups too.

It's no small task, particularly for non-traditionally strong clubs, to build an adult team that will bring you up the grades when things have perhaps fallen by the wayside. Bride, Kanturk and Charleville in particular are to be commended on their achievement in that regard.

I'd estimate it's a process that takes 20 years plus of continuous effort (plus a little luck) to come to fruition.
It needs a couple of strong characters to drive the underage.. a mini dictatorship.. no bs.. a love of the game.. drive.. passion..hunger to learn.. hunger to get better.. a love of the ball.. a mind for battle.. an us against them mentality.. club above all
Build these characteristics into the youngsters.
 
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