The Official Man Utd Thread - Part 3.

The guys top class.

His range and consistency of passing will allow United hold onto the ball at least.

Last season was soul destroying watching McTominay and Bruno booting the ball out/straight to the opposition at every opportunity.



He's a very good player but from another perspective its just the owners raiding the free transfer bargain bin instead of paying for new players in required positions

Defensively Mid
Centre half
Striker

None of these problem areas from last season have been addressed.
 
The guys top class.

His range and consistency of passing will allow United hold onto the ball at least.

Last season was soul destroying watching McTominay and Bruno booting the ball out/straight to the opposition at every opportunity.

He's a handy player and it's great to see him back playing at PL level. Brandon Williams will have plenty of opportunities to hug him again in training :D

They're hardly like-for-like, but Frenkie De Jong and Eriksen are more similar than they are different.

I wonder if Eriksen is recruited as 50% an opportunistic move (given contract situation) and 50% contingency measure (if FDJ deal falls through)?

Or whether ETH has a master plan which involves them playing together? If so, they'll surely need a third body with more physicality in midfield with them? McSauce?
 
Cristiano Ronaldo gives Manchester United goals but his exit would suit Erik ten Hag

For all star striker’s exploits in front of goal, new United manager wants athletic players who press from the front

James Gheerbrant. Sunday July 03 2022, 6.00pm, The Times

You might think that losing Cristiano Ronaldo would be a footballing disaster for Manchester United. On an individual level, it’s true that Ronaldo had an excellent campaign last season: in the Premier League and Champions League, he scored 24 goals in 37 appearances. The team’s second-highest goalscorer in all competitions was Bruno Fernandes, with ten. As the frequently heard refrain went, “Without Ronaldo’s goals, where would United be?”.

The news that Ronaldo wants to leave Old Trafford, with one year remaining on his contract, means that we may be about to find out. Ronaldo’s presence, his legendary dedication to his craft and his supreme penalty-box instincts would be missed. But there are good reasons to think that losing their totemic striker may not be such bad news for United; in fact, it may even be the best thing for Erik ten Hag’s team in the long run.

A centre forward is not a plug-in part and the equation is not as simple as merely subtracting Ronaldo’s goals — just as next season’s Manchester City will not be last season’s City plus Erling Haaland. A football team is a complex, dynamic unit, in which all 11 moving parts are interdependent, and although Ronaldo made United better in some ways, in other ways he detracted from the collective.

The simple fact is that last season’s United, with Ronaldo, were a significantly worse team than the previous campaign’s Ronaldo-less version. Whatever modest measure of control they had established under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, they lost. Their share of possession fell from 55.6 per cent to 52.1 per cent, and their share of the shots in their matches from 55.1 per cent to 49.9 per cent.

Was that all Ronaldo’s fault? Of course not, but his total incompatibility with a coherent pressing structure (he attempted to put opponents under pressure on fewer occasions than any other player bar goalkeepers and centre backs in Europe’s main leagues last season) was a huge contributing factor. Defending from the front is a big part of how elite teams such as City, Liverpool and Bayern Munich compress the game into the attacking third and thus dominate the ball and balance of chances.

As Thierry Henry put it on CBS last year after the Champions League match against Villarreal, in which Ronaldo scored a decisive late goal: “The problem is when your poison is your medicine, you will struggle. At the end, Ronaldo saves them, but when they play, they are exposed sometimes because they don’t defend as a unit. We all know if you want to win, you’ve all got to run.”

High pressing is also a fundamental part of how Ten Hag likes his teams to play. Last season, Ajax allowed the fewest passes per defensive action of any team in the Champions League, while their average of 40.4 pressures in the attacking third was far closer to City (43.8) and Liverpool (52.8) than United were, with a lowly 29.1. Put simply, it was always hard to see how Ten Hag could integrate the most inert forward in European football without severely compromising his style of football. Now, he may not have to.

Losing Ronaldo would also free up United to do things differently in attack. Even in the final phase of his career, the Portugual forward remains a brilliant goalscorer, but these days he is a static focal point, who gobbles whatever you put on his plate but offers little in terms of reciprocal chance creation. As Giorgio Chiellini, his erstwhile Juventus team-mate, said, you can’t help but “play to him” when Ronaldo is in your team. Ultimately, it might be easier for Ten Hag to instil the sort of fluid rotations and slick, unpredictable combination play which distinguish the best teams without Ronaldo.

There is also the glaring question of the club’s long-term strategy. Ronaldo is 37. Selling him would wipe more than £400,000 off the weekly wage bill, and if United can find a willing taker this summer, they may even recoup a modest transfer fee — money which could be reinvested in the construction of a younger, more tactically malleable squad better suited to the years-long project of overhauling City and Liverpool and returning United to Champions League contention.

Re-signing Ronaldo flattered United’s stature; letting him go may better their future.
 
You've got no time for sport journalism in general then?
That's notnwhat I said.

You know how many United matches I watched last year? All but 3 or 4 of them, and that's because they weren't live and I hate shit streams.

I watched more than enough to form a decent opinion on the team. This season I'll watch the same amount of games. If Ronaldo goes it won't matter, if he stays I'll form an opinion if helps or hinders ETHs football or not.

Funnily enough ETH was very happy to work with Ronaldo in his first press conference. I'll take his ideas over yer man's above tbh.
 
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