Boris speaks the unmentionable

[fed up]

Never mind the Brit. What has Micheál Martin got to say on this subject?

Boris is a Yank...

 

[Drucker]

Mícheál Martin:

On Transgender “Rights.”
“I’d be very concerned about that and I’ve watched it in the UK and we certainly don’t need that kind of debate in Ireland. We don’t need to have that kind of debate in Ireland,”

“It’s very superficial, I sense at times, and it’s sort of plucking one aspect of it or one manifestation of it and turning it into a big sort of toxic discussion, which I have no time for and we don’t need that.”

*******

What are referred to as “transgender rights,” are human rights.

Denying peoples right to exist is toxic and as our Taoiseach said we do not need to import that kind of toxic debate into our country.

 

[Happyhonkaman]

Mícheál Martin:

On Transgender “Rights.”
“I’d be very concerned about that and I’ve watched it in the UK and we certainly don’t need that kind of debate in Ireland. We don’t need to have that kind of debate in Ireland,”

“It’s very superficial, I sense at times, and it’s sort of plucking one aspect of it or one manifestation of it and turning it into a big sort of toxic discussion, which I have no time for and we don’t need that.”

*******

What are referred to as “transgender rights,” are human rights.

Denying peoples right to exist is toxic and as our Taoiseach said we do not need to import that kind of toxic debate into our country.

'toxic' should be put on the banned list, we need a new word that actually has some meaning again. Have you ever seen word to be used out of context so often and for so long that it has now become its own entity and applies to absolutely everything?

My kids use it constantly and they're 8 and 10.. sweet jesus

 

[fed up]

Mícheál Martin:

On Transgender “Rights.”
“I’d be very concerned about that and I’ve watched it in the UK and we certainly don’t need that kind of debate in Ireland. We don’t need to have that kind of debate in Ireland,”

“It’s very superficial, I sense at times, and it’s sort of plucking one aspect of it or one manifestation of it and turning it into a big sort of toxic discussion, which I have no time for and we don’t need that.”

*******

What are referred to as “transgender rights,” are human rights.

Denying peoples right to exist is toxic and as our Taoiseach said we do not need to import that kind of toxic debate into our country.

Its superficial... Lol.

 

[PROCNA2018]

See there is a difference between sex and gender.
One is biology and one is a social construct.

Trans people need to be supported and given every help in transitioning to their new gender without stigma and abuse. I do not believe anyone is in a position to make that decision until they are 16 or 18 and certainly no child should be even considered for gender transition no matter what the circumstance.

That said every support and counselling should be provided to ensure support and protection from abuse.

I will be honest, I have serious issues with the notion of self-identification without any intent to transition.
The idea that on a Monday I might feel like a Seán and on Tuesday I might feel like a Siobhán and both states need to be respected by the rest of society I do not get - the idea of gender fluidity seems to me about having cake and eating it because as an individual I should be entitled to whatever I want.

That leads to calls of transphobia all over the place of course. I don't think people have an issue with trans people, except maybe in sport - but they do have legitimate concerns about the nature of society which drives rights to an individual level in direct opposition to the societal good.

A guy I know from college is in the process of transition. Has changed his name or her name and will eventually be a she. That is a world away from whatever the mood takes you when you look out the window in the morning.

 

[PussyinBoots]

Fair fucks.
Glad Boris is flexing his non-EU muscles now.
Rwanda and now this - BJ doesn't have to worry about the woke idiots in Brussels no more.

 

[Matlock]

See there is a difference between sex and gender.
One is biology and one is a social construct.

Trans people need to be supported and given every help in transitioning to their new gender without stigma and abuse. I do not believe anyone is in a position to make that decision until they are 16 or 18 and certainly no child should be even considered for gender transition no matter what the circumstance.

That said every support and counselling should be provided to ensure support and protection from abuse.

I will be honest, I have serious issues with the notion of self-identification without any intent to transition.
The idea that on a Monday I might feel like a Seán and on Tuesday I might feel like a Siobhán and both states need to be respected by the rest of society I do not get - the idea of gender fluidity seems to me about having cake and eating it because as an individual I should be entitled to whatever I want.

That leads to calls of transphobia all over the place of course. I don't think people have an issue with trans people, except maybe in sport - but they do have legitimate concerns about the nature of society which drives rights to an individual level in direct opposition to the societal good.

A guy I know from college is in the process of transition. Has changed his name or her name and will eventually be a she. That is a world away from whatever the mood takes you when you look out the window in the morning.

Why though?

Like, I find it very hard to get my head around the notion of that sort of gender fluidity tbh, but I don't see how it impacts society if someone wants to be gender fluid.

 

[Drucker]

'toxic' should be put on the banned list, we need a new word that actually has some meaning again. Have you ever seen word to be used out of context so often and for so long that it has now become its own entity and applies to absolutely everything?

My kids use it constantly and they're 8 and 10.. sweet jesus

What about “poisonous?”

 

[Drucker]

Fair fucks.
Glad Boris is flexing his non-EU muscles now.
Rwanda and now this - BJ doesn't have to worry about the woke idiots in Brussels no more.

You’ll be delighted when Scotch Whisky is banned because of the impending trade war.
Midleton will boom. All the inbred mucksavage spudgobbling Midleton knuckledraggers will be buying new houses, cars, and in fact everything except deodorant and underpantses.

 

[PussyinBoots]

You’ll be delighted when Scotch Whisky is banned because of the impending trade war.
Midleton will boom. All the inbred mucksavage spudgobbling Midleton knuckledraggers will be buying new houses, cars, and in fact everything except deodorant and underpantses.

You're starting to cross the line there, pal.