Sinn Fein are not a Normal Political Party

[King Silkbeard]

Today marks the 50 anniversary since Ireland's referendum to join the than EEC, Sinn Féin has come along way from a party that was sceptical of the union to one that supports it while Britain characterises her sovereignty as being as separate from EU as possible.

 

[daftbrush]

Today marks the 50 anniversary since Ireland's referendum to join the than EEC, Sinn Féin has come along way from a party that was sceptical of the union to one that supports it while Britain characterises her sovereignty as being as separate from EU as possible.

They are keeping their policy on joining NATO very quite

 

[SoundMan]

Where did I say that SF want an immediate border poll?

Respect the Irish vote.

"To be honest, a vocal minority continually screaming “border poll border poll border poll border poll border poll,” is doing more to put back the cause of Irish unity than to move it forward."

Your rather childish efforts at portraying SF as doing or saying absolutely nothing other than demanding a border poll speaks volumes about you. And your trying to portray SF as being the ones delaying and undermining the cause of Irish unity when the Taoiseach refuses even to DISCUSS asking the Irish people about it at some time in the future is, quite frankly, risible.

 

[SoundMan]

Sinn Fein did not even refer to it in the election.

The D.U.P. only used it as a scare tactic.

Any "United Ireland" has only come a tiny bit closer but it is a very very long journey.

You'd want to have a word with Drucker because in his world it's the only thing that SF ever speak about apparently with his "Border Poll, Border Poll, Border Poll, Border Poll" nonsense.

 

[SoundMan]

What the big 2 tribal parties have missed is that things have changed to a huge degree as we now have instead of 2 powerful blocs we will now have 3 blocs with the centre ground more focussed on real issues instead of old mens fantasies about a United Kingdom or United Ireland.

If the centre ground thrives (I think that it will) and prospers then the D.U.P. and S.F. will indeed have already peaked and a "Northern Irish" identity will be more important to young people.

Ye seem to think that political parties just stand still and don't tailor their policies or strategies to the electorate. Sinn Fein are moving toward the centre. As one political commentator said on RTE over the weekend the SDLP don't really have much of a raison d'etre any more. I think if/when the executive get up and running people will be pleasantly surprised with how accomodating SF will be. They've seen the sands shift and the move to the centre. The UUP have seen it too. The DUP fearful of the TUV on their right won't be as quick to change, and they've a much higher percentage of dinosaurs and (ironically) creationists in their party anyway.

 

[King Silkbeard]

Just looking at the Assembly on the news and the fact that the vote of speaker is being blocked.

NI is just like Lebanon.

 

[Drucker]

I'd say it's more like Luhansk, or Donetsk.

I don't even recognise it anymore.

 

[bluesball]

Nothern ireland who would want them ,a society who on 1 side elect MPs who wont sit in the house of parliament and the other side vote for candidates who wont sit in Stormount,yet all those elected will collect a salary.

 

[The High King]

Nothern ireland who would want them ,a society who on 1 side elect MPs who wont sit in the house of parliament and the other side vote for candidates who wont sit in Stormount,yet all those elected will collect a salary.

Maybe 20/30 years down the line only if they have finally learned how to live with each other. Untill then they should continue in the stasis of their own creation.

 

[jimmym]

sf to bring a bill to the dail to ensure the NMH is built on public land, and to ensure all procedures can be carried out without ideological interference,
This is absolute bull shit, and a deliberate atttempt to delay it, how many more guarantees do people need? The nuns are gone, the lease is over 299 years at 10 eu per year.