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Old 29-11-2016, 12:54 PM
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95 year old Oskar Groening a former Auschwitz concentration camp guard loses appeal.

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German court rejects 95-year-old Auschwitz guard's appeal

Oskar Groening was convicted of being an accessory to 300,000 murders last year.




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A GERMAN FEDERAL court has rejected a former Auschwitz death camp guard’s appeal against his conviction for being an accessory to murder, a decision which has been greeted as setting an important precedent for future prosecutions of Holocaust perpetrators.
Oskar Groening, now 95, was convicted in July 2015 of being an accessory to the murder of 300,000 Jews and sentenced by a court in Lueneburg to four years in prison. Judges found that he knew Jews were being slaughtered and supported the killings through his actions.
The Federal Court of Justice’s decision to uphold the former SS sergeant’s conviction boosts ongoing cases against other suspects and raises the possibility of further investigations against others who served at Nazi death camps or in other functions.
“It’s very exciting news,” said Efraim Zuroff, the head Nazi hunter at the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem. “The door is open.”
Groening, who has been dubbed the “accountant of Auschwitz”, testified at his trial that he oversaw the collection of prisoners’ belongings and ensured valuables and cash were separated to be sent to Berlin. He said he witnessed individual atrocities, but did not acknowledge participating in any crimes.
‘Machinery of death’
Presiding Judge Franz Kompisch ruled last year, however, that Groening was part of the “machinery of death”, helping the camp function and also collecting money stolen from the victims to help the Nazi cause, and could thus be convicted of accessory to the murders committed there.
In throwing out Groening’s appeal, the federal court noted that his responsibilities had included keeping watch on the inmates and preventing resistance or attempts to flee by force.
It also rejected appeals from several survivors and their relatives who had joined the trial as co-plaintiffs, as is allowed under German law, and had sought a tougher conviction.
It is the first time an appeals court has ruled on a conviction obtained under the logic that simply having served at a death camp, and thus helping it operate, is enough to convict someone as an accessory to the murders committed there – even if there was no evidence of involvement in a specific killing.
‘Very difficult’
“If it had gone the other way, it would have been very difficult for us to bring anyone else to trial because today, so many years later, it’s very difficult to prove what concrete acts a suspect committed,” said Jens Rommel, head of the special prosecutor’s office responsible for Nazi war crime probes.
Rommel’s federal office can’t bring charges itself but passes cases along to state prosecutors. They have about a dozen such cases open.
Rommel said his own office is also investigating about 12 to 15 cases. Some of those look beyond death camps such as Auschwitz to concentration camps like Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen and Ravensbrueck, where tens of thousands died but whose sole purpose was not extermination.
In a joint statement, three attorneys who represented 50 Holocaust survivors and families as co-plaintiffs at the Groening trial welcomed the appeal verdict, saying that it came “late, but not too late.”
“We and our clients believe that every member of the SS who was involved in the systematic murder of the Jews in the extermination and concentration camps of the SS committed accessory to murder,” they said.
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In 2011, former Ohio autoworker John Demjanjuk became the first person convicted in Germany solely for serving as a death camp guard without evidence of being involved in a specific killing. Demjanjuk, who always denied serving at the Sobibor camp, died before his appeal could be heard.
Groening has remained free pending the outcome of his appeal. His lawyer, Hans Holtermann, said he expects that prosecutors will now examine whether he is in good enough health to be taken into custody.
Holtermann said he will consider whether to take the case to Germany’s highest court, the Federal Constitutional Court.
He noted that the appeal ruling didn’t address concerns about how long it took to bring Groening to trial. Groening was previously investigated in the 1970s but authorities then shelved the case.
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:58 PM
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:59 PM
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Can you not create a single thread for all your Nazi stuff SmaugY?
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Old 29-11-2016, 01:01 PM
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Can you not create a single thread for all your Nazi stuff SmaugY?
Repped. We need a holocaust denial thread. Long overdue
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Old 29-11-2016, 01:02 PM
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Can you not create a single thread for all your Nazi stuff SmaugY?
I don't have any threads on Nazi stuff M8, you must be getting me mixed up with someone else, again......
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Old 29-11-2016, 01:03 PM
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I'm not sure that Smaug has ever actually denied the holocaust, I think he just believes the evidence needs to be examined more closely, or maybe that the jews were asking for it.
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Old 29-11-2016, 01:06 PM
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Old 29-11-2016, 01:11 PM
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All top threads in fairness, how come all your threads are shit M8?
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Old 29-11-2016, 01:14 PM
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It was the British were the cunts in WW11 M8.

Churchill being the biggest cunt of all.

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In the first months of the war, British strategic bombing (aerial attacks on the enemy’s industry and infrastructure) were bound by the belief that deliberate attacks on civilians and private property were illegal and unjustifiable. By 1945, RAF Bomber Command was obliterating historic German cities overnight. It was a terrifying transformation in the nature of war, that saw industrial towns across Europe smashed to pieces and hundreds of thousands of civilians killed.

When Luftwaffe night-bombers unintentionally (and against orders) attacked London in August 1940, Churchill ordered a retaliatory raid on Berlin. This caused an enraged Hitler to order intensified bombing of targets in and around London.

Both sides thus claimed that their attacks on enemy cities were in retaliation for what had been begun by the enemy. In reality, the bombing of cities and their civilian population had been a reality of warfare since the First World War. In 1940, both sides were intent on attacking the enemy’s economic resources. These were mostly concentrated in cities, and given the inaccurate nature of bombing in World War Two (especially at night), this policy would inevitably lead to the destruction of houses and many civilian deaths.

In February 1942, RAF Bomber Command explicitly began to focus its attacks on the enemy civilian population, when it shifted from strategic bombing to the night-time area bombing of cities, designed to break enemy morale. Arthur ‘Bomber’ Harris, the new head of Bomber Command, saw civilian death (or the ‘dehousing’ of the German workforce) as entirely necessary. He felt that despatching 1,000 aircraft each night against German objectives, destroying great industrial cities in hours, would render the invasion of Europe unnecessary. He pointed to the Cologne raid of May 1942 as an example of what could be achieved: in one night, 1,046 aircraft rained more than 2,000 tons of bombs on the city, reducing 13,000 houses to rubble.
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All top threads in fairness, how come all your threads are shit M8?
Dunno man, sometimes I think PRoC just doesn't "get" me.
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