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Old 30-12-2017, 04:14 PM
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700,000 face bill for heat systems change; Clean energy grants scheme 'woefully inadequate'

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Almost 700,000 households will have to get rid of oil-fired central heating systems to help meet the country’s climate change commitments — but a new grants scheme for conversion to clean energy will only scratch the surface, leaving homeowners facing costs of thousands of euro.

Grants for upgrading oil and gas boilers to more efficient models end in the next few weeks and new grants for conversion to electric heat pumps are due to be rolled out in April.

However, the Department of the Communications, Climate Action, and Environment says it expects it will only help around 1,200 home-owners a year with grants. At that rate it would take 583 years to complete the conversion unless householders take the initiative and bear the full cost themselves.

The Green Party says the scheme is woefully inadequate to address the problem of carbon emissions from residential heating.Energy spokesman and Dún Laoghaire councillor Ossian Smyth said: “We have a huge dependence on oil and gas and we need to switch away from that but if we’re looking at switching 1,200 a year, that’s not a plan.”

Heat pumps — which extract ground heat or external air and condense it to raise the temperature — are becoming more common in new buildings but retrofitting existing homes costs €10,000-€15,000 for the basic installation, while extensive insulation and pipe replacement also often has to be carried out at additional cost.

Grants for approved works will run to €3,500 while grants for external wall insulation are being increased to a maximum of €6,000 for detached houses but that still leaves much to be paid by the homeowner.

Running costs are lower than oil and the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (SEAI) has calculated that more than half of households should be able to make their money back in savings over 11 years, although the pump will need replacing a few years later.

While the department says it has no short-to medium-term plans to place an outright ban on oil-fired heating — unlike Denmark and Norway — the State is under growing pressure to tackle carbon emissions from all sectors. Households account for 25% of all emissions in the country and 30% of that is from oil-fired central heating.

Michael Manley, one of the most senior officials in the Department of Climate Action, told an energy seminar recently that home heating “has to come and will come into focus”.

“We have over 700,000 oil-fired heating systems — it’s difficult to see those still operating in years to come and easily reconciling with our climate change ambitions,” he said.

Mr Smyth said a range of switching options and incentives needs to be put in place urgently.

“There is an obvious case for solar panels,” he said. “We have all this roof space in Ireland not being used and it could be heating homes and supplying the excess electricity to the grid but there is no system in place for that.”

Taxpayers will bear the brunt of fines of up to €600m a year from 2020 onwards for the country’s failure to meet EU obligations to reduce carbon emissions.

“Does the Government prefer that we pay those fines than that they bring in schemes to save energy? It doesn’t make sense,” said Mr Smyth.

The department said there is no set budget for the grants scheme — although Climate Action Minister Denis Naughten said at the time of its announcement that it, plus the insulation grants, would cost about €3m a year.

The Climate Action Department said it would be “demand led”.

“The Greener Homes Scheme which ran from 2006-2011 grant-aided an average of 1,200 heat-pumps per annum. A similar level of activity is possible once the scheme rules are defined and the market responds accordingly,” it said.
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Old 30-12-2017, 05:14 PM
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Nah man, I have a heat pump

No one is going to be forced to change, the grants are an effort to convince people to
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Old 30-12-2017, 07:35 PM
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Here lads, we have the polish coal here in cork, and yes its banned.

Now,

Was in Limerick recently and they don't have polish coal, they have English coal? Did we as the peoples republic turn our noses up to English coal? How is this so lads?

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Old 30-12-2017, 07:38 PM
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Polish coal. The bag with the cat giving the nazi salute on the bag is still available in most co ops.
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Old 30-12-2017, 07:40 PM
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Polish coal. The bag with the cat giving the nazi salute on the bag is still available in most co ops.
Aha ticcy. Tis all making sense now.
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Old 30-12-2017, 07:47 PM
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Nah man, I have a heat pump

No one is going to be forced to change, the grants are an effort to convince people to
And how is the electricity produced to power your heat pump brah?
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Old 30-12-2017, 08:54 PM
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Wood pellet central heating and Esse wood burning stove-green is the name of the game
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Old 30-12-2017, 08:58 PM
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Wood pellet central heating and Esse wood burning stove-green is the name of the game
Admiral brah but your pellets were dried by some heating mechanism. Which one?
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Old 30-12-2017, 09:02 PM
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And they will do nothing to tackle the huge source of CO2 here - beef farming!
The lobby is far too strong, so they'll just keep whacking householders to create the impression they're doing something as they've no lobby.
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Old 30-12-2017, 09:04 PM
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Admiral brah but your pellets were dried by some heating mechanism. Which one?
Dunno-supplied by Brites so perhaps I am not as green as I thought. but I cut and dry all the wood for the stove.
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