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Old 20-12-2017, 11:29 AM
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Can you clarify there Stacky - is that 130M of which you speak the money to carry out the OPWs controversial plan for raising the heights of the quay walls in the city. A plan that's met with widespread concern?

Those elevated quay walls are likely to be on the same lines as those in Clontarf in Dublin that have been so controversial?
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Old 20-12-2017, 11:39 AM
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Can you clarify there Stacky - is that 130M of which you speak the money to carry out the OPWs controversial plan for raising the heights of the quay walls in the city. A plan that's met with widespread concern?

Those elevated quay walls are likely to be on the same lines as those in Clontarf in Dublin that have been so controversial?
It doesnt matter what they are using the money for. You bemoaned the fact yesterday that the no money is being spent on flood defence in Cork and you have been proven wrong by examples given. Just take the pwn and move on
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Old 20-12-2017, 02:20 PM
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Can you clarify there Stacky - is that 130M of which you speak the money to carry out the OPWs controversial plan for raising the heights of the quay walls in the city. A plan that's met with widespread concern?

Those elevated quay walls are likely to be on the same lines as those in Clontarf in Dublin that have been so controversial?
Are you a professional goal post mover Sound_y?

You tried to score political points as other schemes funding was announced nationwide and when €130 million was allocated to Cork City yesterday you had to change tack.

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47 schemes around the country in places like Limerick and Dundalk are getting funding to defend homes against flooding. Kevin Boxer Moran is the minister involved.

"They've identified the flood prone areas" - long term they'll need to spend 1Bn Euro and KBM is looking for an undertaking from the government for it.


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Business leaders welcome OPW report on Cork flood relief plan
Over 1,000 submissions received on scheme designed to protect more than 2,000 properties
Dec 2017

Business leaders in Cork have welcomed the OPW’s publication of its report on public consultation on a €140 million flood relief scheme for the city designed to protect over 2,000 properties from flooding.
Both Cork Chamber and Cork Business Association said they believed the development of an appropriate flood defence scheme as proposed by the OPW in the Lower Lee Flood Relief Scheme was “critical for business in Cork”.
Chamber president Bill O’Connell said the proposed scheme provides comprehensive protection from tidal and fluvial flooding through a raft of measures, from upstream bunds to the restoration of 3km of walls in the city centre.
He said the chamber had been consistent in its support for the scheme, provided it was finished to a high standard and respectful of Cork’s urban heritage. He noted the scheme involved innovative measures at locations such as the North Mall and Sullivan’s Quay.
Retractable demountable barriers
“We highlighted the need for improved design during consultation and the inclusion of full retractable demountable barriers at these locations shows the lengths being taken to listen to stakeholders. We welcome the improved design published by the OPW,” he said.

The Save Cork City campaign group has been highly critical of the plan which they say will restrict access to both channels of the River Lee as it flows through Cork city. Instead they have advocated the construction of a tidal barrier downstream of the city as a more appropriate solution.
However, Cork Business Association president Pat O’Connell said the OPW report on the scheme showed that even if a tidal barrier were viable from planning, environmental, navigation and cost perspectives, protective measures would still have to be taken in the city centre.
“The OPW report shows the current scheme is a necessary first step for fluvial flooding and to reduce the dependency on any potential future barrier closures. At a minimum, the provision of city centre flood defence is a critical component of any long-term additional solution.”

Both men were commenting after Minister of State at the OPW Kevin “Boxer” Moran hailed the publication of the 36-page report by the OPW as important progress after more than 1,100 members of the public made submissions on the plan.
“The Cork City Flood Relief Scheme, when it is constructed, will be the largest-ever flood relief scheme undertaken in Ireland and will provide protection to 2,100 properties, including 900 homes and 1,200 businesses, extending from Inniscarra Dam to the city centre,” Mr Moran said.
‘Best international standards’
“It is designed to best international standards to provide protection against the one-in-100-year fluvial and one-in-200-year tidal flood events,” he said, adding that it was a significant piece of infrastructural investment not just for Cork but for the country as a whole.
Mr Moran said the OPW has a proven track record in the delivery of effective flood relief schemes, and the Cork scheme, prepared with consulting engineers Arup, has been designed so that “it is adaptable to provide greater protection in the future in response to climate change”.
“The Cork scheme takes account of architectural, environmental and heritage considerations raised during the public consultation process and provides a technically feasible and integrated flood defence solution for the city in line with best international standards,” he said.
“Recent flooding events again identified the hardship that occurs in communities that are affected by flooding and highlight the necessity to urgently bring forward flooding solutions for communities that are constantly under threat from flooding,” he said.
“There is a long history of flooding in Cork city, most recently in November 2009, February 2014 and in winter 2015/16, with significant damage estimated at over €130 million to commercial and residential property in Cork – so it’s essential this scheme is implemented without delay.”
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Old 22-12-2017, 08:54 PM
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It's an atrocious project. No self respecting city would accept it.

And it doesn't address the docklands or Tivoli.
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Didn't know there was a flooding problem in the docklands and Tivoli
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Old 23-12-2017, 08:59 AM
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Didn't know there was a flooding problem in the docklands and Tivoli
There's not, aside from the fact that much of South docks are low lying. But if the opw scheme is implemented, there will be. As there are no provisions for what happens to all of the water as it is pushed downstream at speed. The opw plans bizarrely ignore these areas. Mind-boggling.
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Old 23-12-2017, 12:52 PM
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Didn't know there was a flooding problem in the docklands and Tivoli
I knew a guy years ago from Tivoli who couldnt pronounce it when he was drunk.

He used ask confused taxi drivers to bring him to "tibbily"
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Old 28-12-2017, 02:00 PM
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Didn't know there was a flooding problem in the docklands and Tivoli
All the land to the right of the lower Glanmire road outbound from the skew bridge to Dunkettle is reclaimed
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Old 28-12-2017, 02:40 PM
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All the land to the right of the lower Glanmire road outbound from the skew bridge to Dunkettle is reclaimed
Indeed and on the other side all of the land by centre park road is reclaimed also with the marina walk/drive originaly being a dyke.
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Old 28-12-2017, 07:34 PM
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There's not, aside from the fact that much of South docks are low lying. But if the opw scheme is implemented, there will be. As there are no provisions for what happens to all of the water as it is pushed downstream at speed. The opw plans bizarrely ignore these areas. Mind-boggling.
More like upstream. The tide (when certain conditions coincide) causes the flooding in the City. Very rarely caused by the Lee - only when the ESB mess up at the dam - like they did a few years ago and inundated the Western Road and Mercy Hospital area.

Many years ago, I witnessed flooding in Oliver Plunkett Street and South Mall, South Terrace areas - the water was remarkably still - no "pushing downstream at speed" - or upstream, for that matter
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Old 13-02-2018, 12:43 PM
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...ke-827689.html

looks lovely

so it looks the walls are being raised, and the wall are open, so the road and footpath level is to come up too ? Not clear from the video.

also, without any protection elsewhere in the rest of the city, will morrisons island flood anyways ?

Still don't understand the obsessions with walls in this scheme. Who stands to gain ?

This shit could take 10 years to finish.
Future proof the whole harbour, and put one out at roches point.
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