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Old 29-10-2017, 11:55 PM
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Back then all subjects were taught in an authoritarian way.

I think a few years of compulsory Irish would be no harm but it should be something like 3rd class to 1st year and then let them decide.

Adide from the teaching methods, there is an institutionalised problem that nobody in the department of Education can say "Irish should be taught like any other second language" because there's a chorus that steps out from behind the filing cabinets and shouts "But it's your native language! It's official! It's in Bunreaċt na hÉireann! It's another first language!
I've no real problem about Irish being taught in Primary schools, as long as they start a European language at the same time. There's enough evidence out there to suggest that kids find it easiest to learn a new language up to the age of 9 or 10. Let Irish take its chances then in Secondary school. Too late for my own young fella now, but for the sake of our nation, it needs to happen asap.
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Old 30-10-2017, 02:04 PM
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One should think of the Irish language as one considers a partner of many years. When lost we lose something we should have appreciated more.

And when lost it's lost forever.
Spare us the sentimentality.

There's bucket loads of Irish traditions that are disappearing or have vanished completely yet somehow the language is the only one we witter on about endlessly.
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Old 31-10-2017, 01:13 AM
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Gaelscoileanna are the new haunts of suburban racists. “Oi don’t want Adam/Emily/Jack/Sarah, sitting next to Ayamide or Adewale.”

Bigotry disguised as “grá for the Gaeilge.”
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Old 31-10-2017, 01:20 AM
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Gaelscoileanna are the new haunts of suburban racists. “Oi don’t want Adam/Emily/Jack/Sarah, sitting next to Ayamide or Adewale.”

Bigotry disguised as “grá for the Gaeilge.”
I'd say it's more to do with smaller class numbers but work away with your own hysterical theory.
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Old 31-10-2017, 09:57 AM
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Gaelscoileanna are the new haunts of suburban racists. “Oi don’t want Adam/Emily/Jack/Sarah, sitting next to Ayamide or Adewale.”

Bigotry disguised as “grá for the Gaeilge.”
Its been going on for years and 100% true brah.

Out and out racism.

Generally your kids will learn in gealscoils with white ethnic irish but the occasional asian or black kid "adopted" from abroad will slup in but the middle class parents occasionally rename the kid oisin or sinead or something(even if it knows its own native name)

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Old 31-10-2017, 10:34 AM
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Its been going on for years and 100% true brah.

Out and out racism.

Generally your kids will learn in gealscoils with white ethnic irish but the occasional asian or black kid "adopted" from abroad will slup in but the middle class parents occasionally rename the kid oisin or sinead or something(even if it knows its own native name)
How gaelscoileanna deal with non-native names
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Old 31-10-2017, 03:46 PM
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Interesting views as President Michael D Higgins is himself a fluent Irish language speaker. Of course the pro-discrimination and corrupt Irish language mob within various government departments and closely linked organisations don't agree with the President's views. If Irish was an optional subject for the Leaving Cert it would become much harder to discriminate against working class children.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-36268423.html

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-36268336.html

http://worldbestuniversities.net/mic...-be-compulsory

https://www.buzz.ie/education/michae...pulsory-259673

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Old 02-11-2017, 07:35 PM
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It should be optional. The way it is taught at present simply doesn't work.
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Old 03-11-2017, 12:01 AM
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Why are you all so bothered about what is taught in school? Just because youre bitter you weren't able to pick it up you want kids not to have it either so you can feel better about yourself.
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Old 03-11-2017, 12:05 AM
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Why are you all so bothered about what is taught in school? Just because youre bitter you weren't able to pick it up you want kids not to have it either so you can feel better about yourself.
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