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Old 16-09-2017, 09:30 AM
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The middle classes will get a pittance, as will the social welfare people.

The people who will really gain from the budget will be state employees: Varadkar will probably have to put aside up to €1 billion for them.
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Old 16-09-2017, 02:15 PM
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The middle classes will get a pittance, as will the social welfare people.

The people who will really gain from the budget will be state employees: Varadkar will probably have to put aside up to €1 billion for them.
At least Labour not involved or the whole lot would be thrown at state payroll. Labour never fully recovered this vote block after Bertie's vote buying benchmarking scam. They are desperate to pull in that vote again.
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Old 16-09-2017, 05:02 PM
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I have dis proven this time and time again on here. FFS John do some real research and don't believe everything enda and now leo tell you.

One example. Ireland includes social care in health care. Lots of countries don't.

And take some God damn responsibility. 6 years now. Time to stop blaming FF for everything.
Its not just Fianna Fail, it was fianna fail's horrendous economic meltdown.
Do you think economic Armageddon makes health systems better?

Anyway, don't worry yourself about it. I'm shining up the Brexit excuse as we speak.
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Old 16-09-2017, 07:40 PM
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Its not just Fianna Fail, it was fianna fail's horrendous economic meltdown.
Do you think economic Armageddon makes health systems better?

Anyway, don't worry yourself about it. I'm shining up the Brexit excuse as we speak.


I didn't know you had a sense of humour John !!!
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Old 18-09-2017, 03:13 PM
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I didn't know you had a sense of humour John !!!
I normally save it for the humans I Know.
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Old 20-09-2017, 06:23 PM
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Great idea.
Would be better directed into a state building fund.

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Old 20-09-2017, 06:26 PM
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Ireland has fifth highest spending per capita on health in the world. Its prob similar for housing. Takes a while to clean up Fianna Fail exchequer raids/economy ruinations/general woeful incompetence.
Fair to say we're getting pretty shit value for money then.

Yet, it's gotten considerably worse, year on year, for the last six years..
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Old 29-09-2017, 07:06 PM
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Would be better directed into a state building fund.

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Absolutely yes, if we could trust them to spend the money prudently.

Otherwise, I think the pensioners should get most of it.....
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:24 AM
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A state building fund you say? How would that work?
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:52 PM
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Sinn Féin wants to abolish the property tax at a cost of €440 million

The party also proposes a 7% levy on incomes over €100,000.

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SINN FÉIN HAS proposed abolishing the local property tax which would cost the Exchequer €445 million, in its alternative Budget plans.

Against this, the party has proposed re-introducing a second home charge at a rate of €400 per-year which would raise €105 million.

Among other measures, the party has also proposed raising betting tax applied to customers to 3% which would raise €3 million, and a 7% special levy on incomes over €100,000 (which would raise €662 million).

The third largest party in the Dáil launched its alternative budget today, which party TDs said was on the side of “ordinary people”.

“In Budget 2018, Sinn Féin has chosen a side, the side of ordinary people,” said finance spokesperson Pearse Doherty.

Sinn Féin’s priority for Budget 2018 is to invest in public services and begin the process of solving the crises in health and housing.

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Sinn Féin’s Budget would see increases in taxes across different levels of the economy.

Under the heading of “Paying a Fair Share”, the party proposes the 7% levy, increasing the Capital Acquisitions Tax by 3% to 6%, abolishing the Help to Buy scheme, and increasing PRSI for incomes of over €100,000.

All in all the party will raise €2 billion from tax methods. Offsetting this will be tax reductions of almost €600 million.

Some of these will include abolishing the property tax, taking workers under €20,280 out of the Universal Social Charge, increasing tax credits for the self-employed and increasing PRSI bands in line with a minimum wage increase.

Taking these into account, the party is proposing net tax increases of around €1.4 billion.

Doherty has stressed that in the current economic climate there is no room for significant tax cuts and that all resources must be directed towards addressing the crises in housing and health.

He said that Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil were engaged in “a sham fight over tax cuts that will disproportionately benefit those on higher incomes over those on lower to average incomes”.

Spending

The party has costed proposals which it said will tackle the main social issues in the country.

Among these are increases in capital investment in the housing sector, with additional social housing of 4,131 units costed at €702 million.

There would also be increased spending on a new affordable housing programme of €428 million.

There would also be increased capital investment in health of €100 million. The party said it would tackle the trolley crisis and caring for older people with 500 more hospital beds and two million additional home help hours.

The party also flagged increases of €4.50 for all working age social welfare payments, €4.50 for pensioners and €6 for people with disabilities.
http://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-p...27552-Oct2017/
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