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Old 15-06-2017, 04:02 PM
Bill O'Reilly Bill O'Reilly is offline
 
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Angry Simon Coveney (FG) Runs Away From Housing

Having utterly failed as Minister for Housing where he missed even his own targets, (https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017...96-simon-rent/) + (https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017...ousing-ireland), Simon Coveney (FG) has run away to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. So much for being 'up for the challenge of housing'.

('Simon Coveney’s decision to opt for Foreign Affairs and Trade is an interesting one.' http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/no...ever-1.3121071)

Coveney's choice to switch departments implies that his real motivation for becoming Minister for Housing was in fact to raise his profile ahead of the long expected Fine Gael leadership contest.

Unfortunately it will take time to bring a new Minister for Housing up to speed on the housing crisis and all the demands associated with it. This will inevitably delay any progress that could have been made in the meantime.

For a guy who claimed only two weeks ago that he believed in 'a just society', it seems a bit strange that Coveney would turn his back on the record number of people who are homeless in this society and the general housing emergency that is taking place and has become worse on Coveney's watch.

There is something unjust about Coveney's decision to leave his job as Minister for Housing after little more than a year in office. He leaves housing in a worse state than that in which he found it.

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Old 15-06-2017, 04:11 PM
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You might throw up some figures or links there to back up what you are saying please.

Also I never knew that guys could decide what Ministries they want, that I assumed was up to The Taoiseach.
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Old 15-06-2017, 04:17 PM
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Surely you understand that the Taoiseach assigns portfolios. I know you don't like RTE and have an issue with all things Irish, but in this case Simon has no control over what ministry he gets as he lost the leadership election, that's how it works in Ireland.
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Old 15-06-2017, 05:05 PM
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Surely you understand that the Taoiseach assigns portfolios. I know you don't like RTE and have an issue with all things Irish, but in this case Simon has no control over what ministry he gets as he lost the leadership election, that's how it works in Ireland.
Ah I dunno now, I'd be under the impression that Leo gave him a sweet deal to keep him on side.

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Old 15-06-2017, 05:08 PM
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He was given his choice of ministries by Enda and chose Housing because it was the biggest challenge, he said.
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Old 15-06-2017, 05:21 PM
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Basically it had fuck all to do with Coveneys choice but said a lot regards Vlads commitment to solving this crisis. Not losing sight of the fact that he delivered 0% of what he promised...just another spoofer!
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Old 15-06-2017, 05:24 PM
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I am no fan of Simon to be honest, but that opening post is simply not accurate. I don't think he is running away from the Ministry and by all accounts he has been one of the more hard-working ministers in that portfolio for a very long time. I don't think his strategy was right and I don't think it will work but that doesn't mean I wouldn't acknowledge his apparent commitment. in the end of the day he probably had very little control over his portfolio. Leo is obviously trying to make sure that his plans for Simon coveney appear like a promotion. moving him to foreign affairs with responsibility for brexit does exactly that.
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Old 15-06-2017, 05:53 PM
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I am no fan of Simon to be honest, but that opening post is simply not accurate. I don't think he is running away from the Ministry and by all accounts he has been one of the more hard-working ministers in that portfolio for a very long time. I don't think his strategy was right and I don't think it will work but that doesn't mean I wouldn't acknowledge his apparent commitment. in the end of the day he probably had very little control over his portfolio. Leo is obviously trying to make sure that his plans for Simon coveney appear like a promotion. moving him to foreign affairs with responsibility for brexit does exactly that.
As in: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

Either Coveney is a well intentioned innocent abroad (even more abroad with Foreign Affairs) starry eyed more in hope than expectation, or he knew he'd be out of his depth with Housing but needed a big ticket portfolio that might have been solved in order to boost his profile for the inevitable leadership battle but it was too big for him. Either way it doesn't reflect overly well on Simey
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Old 15-06-2017, 07:33 PM
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Having utterly failed as Minister for Housing where he missed even his own targets, Simon Coveney (FG) has run away to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
So much for being 'up for the challenge of housing'.

Coveney's choice to switch departments implies that his real motivation for becoming Minister for Housing was in fact to raise his profile ahead of the long expected Fine Gael leadership contest.

Unfortunately it will take time to bring a new Minister for Housing up to speed on the housing crisis and all the demands associated with it. This will inevitably delay any progress that could have been made in the meantime.

For a guy who claimed only two weeks ago that he believed in 'a just society', it seems a bit strange that Coveney would turn his back on the record number of people who are homeless in this society and the general housing emergency that is taking place and has become worse on Coveney's watch.

There is something unjust about Coveney's decision to leave his job as Minister for Housing after little more than a year in office. He leaves housing in a worse state than that in which he found it.

I know you and your X treehouse gang have a severe aversion with the truth but is there any chance of a link/proof?

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Old 15-06-2017, 08:48 PM
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Surely you understand that the Taoiseach assigns portfolios. I know you don't like RTE and have an issue with all things Irish, but in this case Simon has no control over what ministry he gets as he lost the leadership election, that's how it works in Ireland.
Ah come on C32, you know that's not a proper representation of the process for the bigger names in a party. Coveney won two-thirds of members' votes and a fair few of the parliamentary party - it would be extraordinary to believe that he couldn't name his portfolio.

And it was reported days beforehand that he was looking for the foreign affairs job.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-35815106.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/irela...sing-1.3109822
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