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Old 06-03-2018, 09:43 PM
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True, but they didn't live up to expectations at. United.
Not the first young players to fail to make it at United to be fair.
Id say Fletch was an integral part of SAF last great side.

The illness he suffered its a minor miracle that hes still playing professional soccer.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:31 PM
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Id say Fletch was an integral part of SAF last great side.

The illness he suffered its a minor miracle that hes still playing professional soccer.

Midfield in 2008 C.L. Final = Park-Anderson-Carrick-Giggs afaicr.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:59 AM
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Tomorrow is the 200th meeting of United & Liverpool. The current standing:
Man United 79 wins
Liverpool 65 wins
Draws 55
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:04 AM
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Tomorrow is the 200th meeting of United & Liverpool. The current standing:
Man United 79 wins
Liverpool 65 wins
Draws 55
Any predictions ? Dour nil all or a goal bonanza . The former probably more likely .
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:21 AM
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Fletcher eventually matured into a handy player for Utd once he bulked up and became a genuine midfield presence. For the years before that he looked too waifish and not skilled enough to compensate.

I recall it being a big blow when the Fabregas tackle in the semi ruled him out of the final & he even went on to make the PFA team of the year a little while afterwards.

Fair play to him for carving out a nice career for himself after what sounded like a horrific medical condition.
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:39 AM
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Any predictions ? Dour nil all or a goal bonanza . The former probably more likely .
Barring more miracles from De Gea, Liverpool should win this. Their defence is much improved recently, there's no comparison in terms of attacking players. There is the derby effect which traditionally was a leveller but i think that concept is a bit overplayed as we saw by the recent "red monday" borefest. Also there's little needle in these games any more. So it's a liverpool win for me, Smalling et.al. up against Firmino and Salah. Christ! Also, Van Dijk should easily deal with Lukaku.
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Old 09-03-2018, 12:01 PM
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Also, Van Dijk should easily deal with Lukaku.
That matchup will get plenty of mileage tomorrow !
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:27 PM
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Any predictions ? Dour nil all or a goal bonanza . The former probably more likely .
Looks like it could be 0-0 or a 1-1, based on recent meetings.
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:47 PM
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Barring more miracles from De Gea, Liverpool should win this. Their defence is much improved recently, there's no comparison in terms of attacking players. There is the derby effect which traditionally was a leveller but i think that concept is a bit overplayed as we saw by the recent "red monday" borefest. Also there's little needle in these games any more. So it's a liverpool win for me, Smalling et.al. up against Firmino and Salah. Christ! Also, Van Dijk should easily deal with Lukaku.
That's a pretty fair summary, IMO.

Utd were very good in defense and attack, at the beginning of the season. However, they've begun to leak goals to relegation contenders. Lindelof looks brittle and they have 2 converted wingers at full back.

Midfield has gone back too - Pogba has lost form (big time) Matic has played too many games, Herrera is injured and McTominay looks very raw.

Utd have suffered in attack too - Lukaku's scoring rate has fallen off. Rashford doesn't score anymore. Lingard has had a dip in form too. Alexis hasn't had the expected impact.

Liverpool, in contrast have improved in defense (including GK) Their MF is adequate and their forwards are as dangerous as ever (even post Coutinho)

The positives for Utd is that Mourinho is a shrewd tactician and the team spirit is good, coming off 2 impressive come-backs v Chelsea and Palace.

Utd will play it very tight and look for a draw IMO - I see Liverpool as shading it.
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:23 PM
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Also, Van Dijk should easily deal with Lukaku.
If Lukaku is smart he'll avoid VVD like the plague and pull on to Lovren.

He's much more easily drawn into physical tussles and he may well get some joy if Lovren's decision-making isn't good.
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