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Old 21-06-2015, 02:40 PM
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I can't see from the plans we've seen there, how wheelchair access is going to be handled. Seems like a lot of steps up and down.

Will wheelchair users have to use the old northern entrance?
Presume lifts may be available.

It's good to see the reorientation but the place has great potential for redevelopment and this is incredibly suburban in its nature. Would even say it should be more a priority than the south Docklands as it's a size that can be resonably developed over a short enough time frame compared to the vast land bank the opposite side of the river.

Development around main hubs like train stations always the preferred option. Commuter rails line from East and North would be massively boosted by having a major office development in that area.

Very strong pedestrian links should be put in place between Parnell Place and Kent too to help this thing along. Wider footpaths, safer and clearer crossings and cLear signage would make tie things together.
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Old 21-06-2015, 09:51 PM
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The main route into the city from north/east cork passes between the bus and train stations so there is only so much they can do for pedestrians, short of a tunnel or bridge.
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Old 21-06-2015, 09:55 PM
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From the Statue to even the edge of the CIE property on Horgan's Quay/Penrose Quay junction is 700 meters. That's more than 5 minutes walk for most I'm afraid - but with proper frequent rapid cheap public transport in both directions it could certainly make it feel more central. And there's oceans of space down there should the Bus Station be moved (can't see that happening though tbh)
You'd think it would make sense to just have a bus going from the train station to the bus station to the statue all day long, but there is probably some bus drivers union rule against driving routes that might make the driver dizzy so it could never happen.
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Old 21-06-2015, 10:29 PM
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The bus station should be at the train station - they have tons of land down there and just flog the decrepid bus station to a developer for an office block to pay for it all while making a profit.

But we are dealing with a backward heavily subsidised semi- state company.
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Old 24-06-2015, 11:20 AM
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Presume lifts may be available.

It's good to see the reorientation but the place has great potential for redevelopment and this is incredibly suburban in its nature. Would even say it should be more a priority than the south Docklands as it's a size that can be resonably developed over a short enough time frame compared to the vast land bank the opposite side of the river.

Development around main hubs like train stations always the preferred option. Commuter rails line from East and North would be massively boosted by having a major office development in that area.

Very strong pedestrian links should be put in place between Parnell Place and Kent too to help this thing along. Wider footpaths, safer and clearer crossings and cLear signage would make tie things together.
Reading is a similar size to Cork, we've just had the station redeveloped. To be fair, it is in a more central location and on a lot more lines (More than 20 platforms overall), but still, the difference in scale is huge, they've spent £1 billion on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readin..._redevelopment

But it's the development around it that's even bigger. On the South side, there's the Station Hill development which involves either knocking and rebuilding or totally refurbishing a couple of minor skyscrapers:
- 930,000 sq ft of offices
- 150,000 sq foot of retail
- 300 residential units
- Over 200 trains an hour to London
- £850 million spent on improved infrastructure and communication links
http://www.stationhillreading.co.uk/...ment/overview/

On the North side, they've sold off the old Royal Mail site and are massively developing that too, with over 700 housing units going in to a couple of sites.
To be fair, there's an awful lot more commuters going through the station than in Cork and the proximity to London is a major factor, but still, there's a good few billion going into the redevelopment, as it's considered a key hub.
There's a disregard for public transport that's quite telling in the lack of development around Kent station and the overall Cork area train network
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Old 24-06-2015, 12:27 PM
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They think they have found his body in Cork Prison grounds.
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Old 24-06-2015, 02:04 PM
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They think they have found his body in Cork Prison grounds.
I've read this a few times and I still haven't a clue.......
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Old 24-06-2015, 02:14 PM
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Kent Station is named after Thomas Ceannt (Kent) who was shot during the war of independence. They believe they have found his body today in the grounds of Cork Prison. Doing a DNA analysis.
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Old 24-06-2015, 10:57 PM
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What is that building stuck onto the red bricked curved wall. It looks like a 1980s extension on a semi d.
What chance has Cork of ever getting light rail or BRT if this the best they can do with the train station.
This is why Simon Coveney has to cheer lead BAM and JCD as he's knows that there will be little investment in Cork by government.
The building is the original signal cabin for the station.
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Old 25-06-2015, 03:02 AM
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1999 - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/cork-...lways-1.232128

we seem to be caught in groundhog day but the plans actually get less ambitious!
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