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Old 08-11-2017, 02:08 PM
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Agreed.
Bear in mind though that 12 EDT lessons does not mean just 12 hours of driving.
Each EDT lesson has a specific content and to progress through the programme it is expected/required that an amount of preparation is done before moving on to the next lesson. This can be done with friends or family or with a driving instructor.
The RSA state somewhere on their website that it is the aim that on completion of the EDT programme a learner would have about 100 hours of driving done..... obviously it is not expected that a person pays for 100 hours of driving tuition but more a case of the RSA assuming everyone has access to a car to practice in.
There are simpletons on boards that believe it's possible to pass the driving test with just 12 lessons and no previous driving experience or practice driving betweeen lessons.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:54 PM
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Driving standard in Ireland is beyond a joke and unless younger drivers are properly trained it'll just remain the same.... too many gobshites who use fog lights when they shouldn't and people who wouldn't feck off from the fast lane and have no notion of what and who is surrounding them...it's like mirrors have just been built to touch up the make up when stopped at a traffic light

Back home it is minimum 20 X 1 hour lesson...hardly anyone passes the test after 20 hours, you probably need 22 to 25 hours


Its good to see more and more driving school cars around town these days
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:56 PM
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This should get all these chancers off the road thus reliving traffic congestion and improving public transport usage and cycling.

Being on the public roads as a learner is just not safe for the rest of us.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:13 PM
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The thing with Ireland is whenever there is a problem the state is less interested in solving it and more interested in making a profit from it.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:15 PM
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Driving standard in Ireland is beyond a joke and unless younger drivers are properly trained it'll just remain the same.... too many gobshites who use fog lights when they shouldn't and people who wouldn't feck off from the fast lane and have no notion of what and who is surrounding them...it's like mirrors have just been built to touch up the make up when stopped at a traffic light

Back home it is minimum 20 X 1 hour lesson...hardly anyone passes the test after 20 hours, you probably need 22 to 25 hours


Its good to see more and more driving school cars around town these days
I dunno about France Marco but in Italy and Spain I get the impression most learned how to drive by watching footage of kamikaze pilots.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:22 PM
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The thing with Ireland is whenever there is a problem the state is less interested in solving it and more interested in making a profit from it.
Or just legislating for it and simply not enforcing it anyway.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:33 PM
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I dunno about France Marco but in Italy and Spain I get the impression most learned how to drive by watching footage of kamikaze pilots.
Same with Greece and Latin America, yes some drivers here are atrocious but the aforementioned countries are 10 times worse than we are IMO, reflected in a way higher road death rates too, roughly double ours.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:36 PM
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So the RSA, went to the legal eagles for advice.
They got it and sent recommendations to the Government.
This as always is yet another law, crafted by the legal business to create lots of challenges to it.
Therefore lots of ching ching for their coleagues.
The legal business has self preservation perfected.
They're entitled to it
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:46 PM
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I dunno about France Marco but in Italy and Spain I get the impression most learned how to drive by watching footage of kamikaze pilots.
yeah, in big cities that's usually the case (in France too, Paris and Marseille for example)...i drove in Palermo couple of years ao, it was worse than Lima, Bangkok or Marakech

i think this is more down to the fact people don't give a shit rather than not knowing basic road rules
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:36 PM
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Would this be the "government" who handed out full licences to people because the testing system was backlogged?
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