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Old 04-12-2013, 10:41 AM
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All learner permit holders must be accompanied by a qualified driver at all times while driving.

Currently, unaccompanied learners are given a caution and fine of up to €1,000.

Under the new system, they will get one penalty point and a fine of €80, and three if they appeal and lose in the district court where they will also face a fine of up to €1,000.

Do you know anyone who has got a fine recently?

From what I have been told the garda are just asking you to produce your current learner permit within 10 days at a garda station. A warning follows with a reminder that if you get caught again you may get an on the spot €80 fine.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:01 AM
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All learner permit holders must be accompanied by a qualified driver at all times while driving.

Currently, unaccompanied learners are given a caution and fine of up to €1,000.

Under the new system, they will get one penalty point and a fine of €80, and three if they appeal and lose in the district court where they will also face a fine of up to €1,000.

Do you know anyone who has got a fine recently?

From what I have been told the garda are just asking you to produce your current learner permit within 10 days at a garda station. A warning follows with a reminder that if you get caught again you may get an on the spot €80 fine.


TV3 did a series on the Gardai. Anyone remember it? On one episode they caught an African woman driving a Nissan Micra with L-plates displayed on it on the M50. She had 6 kids in the car. She was on a provisional licence. she threw chewing gum out on the road in front of the Garda who was questioning her.

Offences:

1. Learner driver with no full-licenced driver in the car
2. Learner driver driving on a motorway
3. No kids on individual child seats
4. Too many passengers in the car (not enough seat belts in a Micra for 7 people)
5. Littering.

Action taken by the Garda: From what I saw on the TV was that it was a tap on the wrist and don't do it again.

Whereas he should have seized the car and made her get alternative transport but no he just left her off down the motorway like nothing happened.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:49 PM
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No surprise.

The attitude of most people seems to be in favour of letting learners do what they want, which is ridiculous. I know people who have gone for their test, unaccompanied, failed for a major safety issue, then drive off, unaccompanied.

Ireland seems to blase about it whereas other countries are tightening up rules, ie. making learners have a minimum amount of hours with an instructor, which makes a lot more sense
Makes perfect sense especially when you have lots of people from countries where they have little or no Road Rules!
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:50 PM
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Transition year should feature drivers' education. Rules of the road, theory, basic mechanics, car and road safety, first aid.

Where practical, driving lessons ought to be undertaken.

The end of the year ought to feature the national driver theory test and a first aid exam. Fail, and you go to the back of the queue.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:13 PM
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No surprise.

The attitude of most people seems to be in favour of letting learners do what they want, which is ridiculous. I know people who have gone for their test, unaccompanied, failed for a major safety issue, then drive off, unaccompanied.

Ireland seems to blase about it whereas other countries are tightening up rules, ie. making learners have a minimum amount of hours with an instructor, which makes a lot more sense
Mandatory learner lessons has been the case in Ireland since 2011 when the RSA introduced the Essential Driver Training (EDT) programme.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:17 PM
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Enforced? (genuine question) and what happens if the learner isn't up to standard?
Yes.
Learners have a logbook in which the 12 lessons are recorded. The driving instructor has to upload the completed lessons to the RSA system and only when all the lessons uploaded can the learner apply to do their driving test.


http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Learner-Dri...-Training-EDT/
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:24 PM
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Mandatory learner lessons has been the case in Ireland since 2011 when the RSA introduced the Essential Driver Training (EDT) programme.
I did not know that.

Thanks, Shansham.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:25 PM
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Mandatory learner lessons has been the case in Ireland since 2011 when the RSA introduced the Essential Driver Training (EDT) programme.
Do not let facts get in the way of one of Liams imaginationbox moments

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Old 04-12-2013, 01:28 PM
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And if the learner is dangerous, or fails their test, do they have to take more lessons?
Any reasonably competent driving instructor should have a learner test ready on completion of the EDT programme.
The fact that the EDT programme is complete only indicates that the learner has had some formal training and a certain amount of practical experience.
This limited training is expected to be allied with much practice with friends/family to gain whatever experience is required to reach the standard where a person can drive safely unaccompanied, ie, pass the driving test - which by the way is the minimum standard required to drive unaccompanied.

To answer your question, once the EDT programme is completed by a learner there is no further obligation for them to take more professional driving lessons.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:29 PM
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No surprise.

The attitude of most people seems to be in favour of letting learners do what they want, which is ridiculous. I know people who have gone for their test, unaccompanied, failed for a major safety issue, then drive off, unaccompanied.

Ireland seems to blase about it whereas other countries are tightening up rules, ie. making learners have a minimum amount of hours with an instructor, which makes a lot more sense
I know a fella on the INTERNET who drove a Lamborghini when he was 12

A fucking Lamborghini like, one of the most powerful cars ever produced, if he had squeezed the accelerator he could have gone out of control and killed any number of innocent bystanders as well as himself

His parents must have been seriously blasé, or else his imagination has run away with itself faster than the Lambo could ever have gone
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