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Originally Posted by Stacky
Yes and the kids park is full of rubbish,condoms etc and half the equipment smashed and now a burnt out car. Teens drinking in there at weekends afaik.
Cork County Council are officially useless.
theres young fellas drinking/smoking weed there everyday..some SERIOUSLY dangerous looking fuckers too.
I am here now in my car in the Topaz garage in Douglas village and am looking down towards Barrys and am wondering.
1. How come on a Saturday there are so many available parking spaces on the street.
2. Are the business's suffering a drop in customers?
3. What has it cost us, the tax payers that is for CCC to build a car park behind St Patricks Woollen Mills? Which by the way might as well be down in Passage West considering the actual walking distance from Douglas Village.
4. How much did it cost us the tax payers for CCC to install all of those pay parking machines dotted around the village?
5. How much is it costing us the tax payers to pay for this contract which CCC have with Apcoa to police the parking?
Location: trying to prevent JT spoiling everyones day
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Originally Posted by Speedbird
I am here now in my car in the Topaz garage in Douglas village and am looking down towards Barrys and am wondering.
1. How come on a Saturday there are so many available parking spaces on the street.
2. Are the business's suffering a drop in customers?
3. What has it cost us, the tax payers that is for CCC to build a car park behind St Patricks Woollen Mills? Which by the way might as well be down in Passage West considering the actual walking distance from Douglas Village.
4. How much did it cost us the tax payers for CCC to install all of those pay parking machines dotted around the village?
5. How much is it costing us the tax payers to pay for this contract which CCC have with Apcoa to police the parking?
not being smart but I'd email any of the local tds, councillors and find out.
Everyone is parking on de carrigalne road in front of de shade station...no metres there
I wonder are they the crowd who park up and get the bus to town, then bus to Douglas and home again after work.
Actually i reckon that the free parking there is actually closer to the village than that council car park behind the woollen mills.
why all the bile and anger and snarling etc? it's pay parking, not fucking mass genocide.
people pay for car parking in urban areas all over the world, it's a widely accepted way of rationing road space to manage town centres while generating revenue. sounds sensible to me. get over it.
Wrong, the UK has had pay parking in town centres for years and those town centres have died leaving a plethora of charity shops and estate agents.
A recent study into the regeneration of town centres has put pay parking as the main obstacle, above even nearby shopping centres with cheaper shops.
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Originally Posted by Jinky
There is something inherently wrong with someone who chooses to become a referee
Wrong, the UK has had pay parking in town centres for years and those town centres have died leaving a plethora of charity shops and estate agents.
A recent study into the regeneration of town centres has put pay parking as the main obstacle, above even nearby shopping centres with cheaper shops.
Liam, with respect, that is complete bull. Every urban centre worth its salt charges for on street parking. Traders always always cite parking as an obstacle to trade.
Wrong, the UK has had pay parking in town centres for years and those town centres have died leaving a plethora of charity shops and estate agents.
A recent study into the regeneration of town centres has put pay parking as the main obstacle, above even nearby shopping centres with cheaper shops.
That is not strictly true. A bigger issue is the fact that many of these town centres suffer from the proximity of out of own centres nearby. These shopping centres have killed off th high street in some places. Interestingly, the biggest shopping centre in europe in Stratford has 85% of its customers arrive by public transport.
Liam, with respect, that is complete bull. Every urban centre worth its salt charges for on street parking. Traders always always cite parking as an obstacle to trade.
and that makes it untrue? In the UK, Middlesbrough, Wolverhampton and Wiltshire councils all realised that pay parking in town centres was killing the local economy and reduced or removed the charges.
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That is not strictly true. A bigger issue is the fact that many of these town centres suffer from the proximity of out of own centres nearby. These shopping centres have killed off th high street in some places. Interestingly, the biggest shopping centre in europe in Stratford has 85% of its customers arrive by public transport.
Actually it is true, if I can find the report I will post it. I'm not saying out of town shopping centres weren't an issue raised, but parking was the main one. There is one high street in Newham that had totally died off. The council realised this and changed their pay parking area to 2 hours free parking, unfortunately it was too late, but even the council acknowledged that it was a serious issue.
Stratford doesn't have a high street to kill off. It had a smaller shopping centre with a parking complex before Westfield was built.
Pay parking is only about revenue raising for councils and is self-defeating. They would have more business tax income if people shopped in the areas in question then they would gain from pay parking. I have a massive problem with pay parking in principal
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Originally Posted by Jinky
There is something inherently wrong with someone who chooses to become a referee
and that makes it untrue? In the UK, Middlesbrough, Wolverhampton and Wiltshire councils all realised that pay parking in town centres was killing the local economy and reduced or removed the charges.
Actually it is true, if I can find the report I will post it. I'm not saying out of town shopping centres weren't an issue raised, but parking was the main one. There is one high street in Newham that had totally died off. The council realised this and changed their pay parking area to 2 hours free parking, unfortunately it was too late, but even the council acknowledged that it was a serious issue.
Stratford doesn't have a high street to kill off. It had a smaller shopping centre with a parking complex before Westfield was built.
Pay parking is only about revenue raising for councils and is self-defeating. They would have more business tax income if people shopped in the areas in question then they would gain from pay parking. I have a massive problem with pay parking in principal
You are thinking of the Portas review published about 6 months ago (not written by a transport professional but has some other good points). Newham have restricted the use of Stratford to 2 hours free parking to limit car dependency and congestion in the area which has worked reasonably well.
Traders frequently over-estimate the importance of parking- it has been proven that what is more important is the quality of fare on offer
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