Remove the prefabs. After all the "All we want is a school" brigade have been whinging about how unsuitable they are for years.
Now that there is zero chance of a school being built on the green, the prefabs should be removed.
Well there is another storey being added to them
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Originally Posted by tobyscoby
Imagine if Aldi opened a store operating out of portacabins in Brian Dillons, in the hope that someday they would get permission to build a permanent structure on the green next door. It would never happen.
Never the original intention. There were several alternative sites investigated over the last decade and none were approved by An Bord Pleanala or the Dept of Education.
The school had permission to set up the prefabs initially. Aldi would need permission too.
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Originally Posted by tobyscoby
Remove the prefabs and put the kids into a proper warm permanent building.
Sigh. Just because you repeat something over and over again doesn't make it true. Maybe if I type "build the school on the Tank Field" enough times that will make it happen?
Most six year olds know this - in fairness it doesn't stop them trying though. It's not possible without permission from the relevant authorities. What part of that don't you understand?
Remove the prefabs. After all the "All we want is a school" brigade have been whinging about how unsuitable they are for years.
Now that there is zero chance of a school being built on the green, the prefabs should be removed.
Imagine if Aldi opened a store operating out of portacabins in Brian Dillons, in the hope that someday they would get permission to build a permanent structure on the green next door. It would never happen.
Remove the prefabs and put the kids into a proper warm permanent building.
when i was in secondary school the prefabs were always better than any of the classrooms in the main buildings. were were far better off out in the prefabs
This is ridiculous! Everyone posting on this thread is throwing accusations and insults at each other and repeating the same things.
I went to Gaelscoil an Ghoirt Alainn. I started there in 1993 when it first started in the nursing home in montenotte. THAT was unsuitable.
I was there when they moved to the prefabs. My siblings went/are still going there and yes,the prefabs are awful. Yes,a real building should be provided for these children. But LOADS of suggestions have been rejected,NOT by the parents of the kids,who literally do JUST WANT A SCHOOL BUILDING,but by an board pleanala and the dept of education. We don't know why each site was rejected (well,i don't) but they must've had a reason!
That Gaelscoil was the first multidenominational all Irish primary school in the entire country. It deserves a building! The kids attending deserve a building! The kids who will attend it in the future deserve a building. Not bloody cold horrible prefabs that nobody,and I do mean NOBODY,wants. WE ALL WANT THE PREFABS GONE but NIL UAINN ANN ACH SCOIL. all we want is a school. Yes,there are loads of other schools in the area but how many of you posters suggesting the gaelscoil be moved into one of them have been bullied by the students of those schools,just for attending an irish speaking school? None,i bet. But thats the harsh truth. How many parents would willingly send their young child (4-13years old) to a secondary school? Not many i'm guessing. Especially when those parents chose to send their child to a school in which they can learn the language that our ancestors gave their lives to be able to use,not the language that teens use! The whole argument is appalling,this is a school we're talking about. A primary school at that!
I can understand the residents directly across the road from the school who have to put up with idiot parents who don't read the literally millions of notes sent home reminding them not to park outside the residents houses. I understand the residents being miffed about the traffic 3times a day and the fact that more children attend the school every year,so it is getting bigger. But I don't understand why people all over mayfield/montenotte have those horrible 'save our tank field' posters in their windows,as if the kids're terrorists or something. That's horrible,IMO. Target the government/board pleanala/department of education,not the children! Or the parents who want their kids educated in an inclusive,progressiv e,nurturing environment. (not saying other schools aren't,just that G.a.G.A is,incredibly so!)
*phew* been waiting about 2 weeks to post that!
This is ridiculous! Everyone posting on this thread is throwing accusations and insults at each other and repeating the same things.
I went to Gaelscoil an Ghoirt Alainn. I started there in 1993 when it first started in the nursing home in montenotte. THAT was unsuitable.
I was there when they moved to the prefabs. My siblings went/are still going there and yes,the prefabs are awful. Yes,a real building should be provided for these children. But LOADS of suggestions have been rejected,NOT by the parents of the kids,who literally do JUST WANT A SCHOOL BUILDING,but by an board pleanala and the dept of education. We don't know why each site was rejected (well,i don't) but they must've had a reason!
That Gaelscoil was the first multidenominational all Irish primary school in the entire country. It deserves a building! The kids attending deserve a building! The kids who will attend it in the future deserve a building. Not bloody cold horrible prefabs that nobody,and I do mean NOBODY,wants. WE ALL WANT THE PREFABS GONE but NIL UAINN ANN ACH SCOIL. all we want is a school. Yes,there are loads of other schools in the area but how many of you posters suggesting the gaelscoil be moved into one of them have been bullied by the students of those schools,just for attending an irish speaking school? None,i bet. But thats the harsh truth. How many parents would willingly send their young child (4-13years old) to a secondary school? Not many i'm guessing. Especially when those parents chose to send their child to a school in which they can learn the language that our ancestors gave their lives to be able to use,not the language that teens use! The whole argument is appalling,this is a school we're talking about. A primary school at that!
I can understand the residents directly across the road from the school who have to put up with idiot parents who don't read the literally millions of notes sent home reminding them not to park outside the residents houses. I understand the residents being miffed about the traffic 3times a day and the fact that more children attend the school every year,so it is getting bigger. But I don't understand why people all over mayfield/montenotte have those horrible 'save our tank field' posters in their windows,as if the kids're terrorists or something. That's horrible,IMO. Target the government/board pleanala/department of education,not the children! Or the parents who want their kids educated in an inclusive,progressiv e,nurturing environment. (not saying other schools aren't,just that G.a.G.A is,incredibly so!)
*phew* been waiting about 2 weeks to post that!
Never in the field of human PROCistory has a user name been so appropriate.
this is not about the children in the school but the tank field of course - one of the last green spaces left on the northside. the gaeilscoil nutters have been offered over the last few years everything from free sites to the sharing of facilities at other half empty schools in the area, I would go far as to say they have kept because of this fixation with being in that area they have kept those kids in the prefabs unnecessarily. Your mention of the parking up there is another reason there should not be a scool there its complete mindless bullsh*t imo.
I don't believe there is one person in the locality who does not want the pupils housed in a proper building. The issue is the location.
It is as clear day that the Board of Management of the Gaelscoil want the Tank Field. In 2000 they were looking for excuses not to move to Tinker's Cross and they found that excuse when they learned that they would be sharing the site with a COPE development, which subsequently did not materialise.
In 2005 the Dept of Education applied to Cork City Council for planning to build on the Tank Field even before their own inspectors report on Mayfield Community School was published.
I find your comment about bullying amazing. Firstly, it is gratuitously offensive to the schools in the area to suggest that the Gaelscoil pupils can't share a campus with them for fear of being bullied. Secondly it is Department policy to co-locate primary and secondary schools on the same campus. Of course it's different when the Principal of Mayfield Community Schools marches with the Gaelscoil protest. Something not quite right here.
It is equally offensive to suggest that ordinary schools do not provide a good standard of Irish. In fact students who go through the primary and secondary system through Irish have severe learning difficulties in year-one at 3rd level, where subjects are documented in English.
To suggest that the "Save our Tank Field" signs are horrible is purely a matter of opinion. The signs on the back of cars stating "All we want is a school" are no different. We live in a democracy that, thankfully, allows freedom to protest.
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