Thousands of contract staff lost their jobs.
But I guess they don't count. Not real people.
More waffle. They are on contracts and not unionised PS employees. Contract staff are by definition external employees and are not entitled to tenure entitlements, pension benefits, sick leave, etc etc.
More waffle. They are on contracts and not unionised PS employees. Contract staff are by definition external employees and are not entitled to tenure entitlements, pension benefits, sick leave, etc etc.
The clue is in the term "contract staff".
Try again.
More waffle? These are people who worked in the public sector and lost their jobs. That is what the term 'job losses' means.
If you scroll up you will see that the question posed was "have any public servants lost their jobs?" - not "have any unionised PS employees lost their jobs?". And several of the contract staff were unionised.
Your contention that staff on contracts are external employees is bollocks.
You are angry because your contention is wrong - prejudiced people often respond badly to being exposed.
More waffle? These are people who worked in the public sector and lost their jobs. That is what the term 'job losses' means.
If you scroll up you will see that the question posed was "have any public servants lost their jobs?" - not "have any unionised PS employees lost their jobs?". And several of the contract staff were unionised.
Your contention that staff on contracts are external employees is bollocks.
You are angry because your contention is wrong - prejudiced people often respond badly to being exposed.
Try again.
Do you even know what contract staff actually are?
They are contracted by the PS to fill short or fixed term positions. Normally the contracts are for a fixed term with the option to be renewed as the employers desire. None of them were made redundant. They werent full time employees. Their contracts werent renewed. Its called outsourcing. Something the PS should impliment en masse.
Do you even know what contract staff actually are?
They are contracted by the PS to fill short or fixed term positions. Normally the contracts are for a fixed term with the option to be renewed as the employers desire. None of them were made redundant. They werent full time employees. Their contracts werent renewed. Its called outsourcing. Something the PS should impliment en masse.
Most of the contract staff in question were full-time, but not permanent. Do you even now what full-time means? They had jobs. They lost their jobs. That is what job loss means.
Contract staffing is not outsourcing. Try and get your terminology clear.
Most of the contract staff in question were full-time, but not permanent. Do you even now what full-time means? They had jobs. They lost their jobs. That is what job loss means.
Contract staffing is not outsourcing. Try and get your terminology clear.
Wrong yet again.
They were fixed term full time conracts. Full time simply refers to hours worked. You can work full time on as short as a weekly or monthly contract. This also applies in the reverse. It is also common to have permanent part time staff, with the same entitlements (at a reduced level) as full time permanent employees.
But while were at it how many permanent, pensioned, and pay scaled full time public servants were made redundant?
What cuts have the PS taken? Have they had their wages reduced? Have people lost their jobs? Have they had their pensions brought into line with the private sector?
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Originally Posted by hemlock666
Do you even know what contract staff actually are?
They are contracted by the PS to fill short or fixed term positions. Normally the contracts are for a fixed term with the option to be renewed as the employers desire. None of them were made redundant. They werent full time employees. Their contracts werent renewed. Its called outsourcing. Something the PS should impliment en masse.
If I phone the Co.Co in Donegal and ask to speak to Mary , who was dealing with my Road Opening licence Queries and get told " she was let go last week , and no-one has told us who's doing her work now "
is that not a lay off and cut back in the PS ?
Especially seeing as how not one person in the council has been given a permanent contract since 2000 or so ?
I have a friend who was "accidentally" given permanent status in a council in 2004 , because they forgot to lay him off at the end of his 2 year contract .
They laid him off in 2009 . For no other reason than they figured that he wouldn't have the cash to sue them anymore , and they were told to cut to the bone .
anyone with the slightest weakness in their contract , regardless of ability , productivity or anything like that has been jettisoned from the PS .
and you reckon that there's been no cutbacks ?
I mean , are you gonna say that they should be more flexible , and make a typing clerk take over the H&S department there , and do the engineering drawings for new roads ?
C'mere , there's a whole pile could be done with the PS to improve the whole state of this country, the economy and the rest .
How many permanent, pensioned, and pay scaled full time public servants were made redundant?
That question I posed was a really good chance for you to demonstrate some bone fides by admitting a simple mistake.
What a shame you couldn't take it. A common weakness of haters. You should liaise with Stacky. He can't admit simple mistakes either when attacking the public service.
That question I posed was a really good chance for you to demonstrate some bone fides by admitting a simple mistake.
What a shame you couldn't take it. A common weakness of haters. You should liaise with Stacky. He can't admit simple mistakes either when attacking the public service.
Immaterial. How many permenant full time pensioned staff have been made redundant in the PS? Back up your claims.
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