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Old 29-08-2008, 09:33 PM
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right so we have 10mb cable broadband. himself can get the full 10 on his pc but when i use it on my laptop which is wireless i get between 3 and 4 mb tops.

whats the story there like? is it down to wireless or do i need to change settings?
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:34 AM
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How close to the wireless router are you when using it? Walls, floors/ceilings, etc, can seriously degrade the signal quality. How old is the laptop? Is it definately 802.11g wireless?
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:01 PM
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How close to the wireless router are you when using it? Walls, floors/ceilings, etc, can seriously degrade the signal quality. How old is the laptop? Is it definately 802.11g wireless?
i am about 8 feet from the wireless router and the laptop is deffo 802.11

its the same issue is on my ps3 which is also wireless. however the 360 which is connected with a cable is getting the whole lot.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:10 AM
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i am about 8 feet from the wireless router and the laptop is deffo 802.11

its the same issue is on my ps3 which is also wireless. however the 360 which is connected with a cable is getting the whole lot.
As it would - wireless is slower in transfer rate than cable - connect your laptop to the router via a cable and you'll get the full transfer rate i.e. 10mb

reason? wireless has a transfer rate of 54mbs (thats mega bits btw)
cable connection (Or 'LAN Cable') has 100mbs transfer rate

so connecting by wireless will show a latency issue...

3 - 4 mbps is about right over a 10mb connection...
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:23 PM
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As it would - wireless is slower in transfer rate than cable - connect your laptop to the router via a cable and you'll get the full transfer rate i.e. 10mb

reason? wireless has a transfer rate of 54mbs (thats mega bits btw)
cable connection (Or 'LAN Cable') has 100mbs transfer rate

so connecting by wireless will show a latency issue...

3 - 4 mbps is about right over a 10mb connection...
Wrong. I can transfer files over 802.11g at home at speeds of 20Mb and the router is in the attic.

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How old is the laptop. Does it definately have 802.11g and it's not b only? What is the make and model of the router?

Check your routers settings to make sure it is set to '802.11g only'.

Try different channel's in the router settings. Restart the router after changing channels and restart your connection on the laptop.

Are other computers working online at the same time you connect using the wifi?


If all the above are checked and still having problems post back here and we'll look more indepth.
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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As it would - wireless is slower in transfer rate than cable - connect your laptop to the router via a cable and you'll get the full transfer rate i.e. 10mb

reason? wireless has a transfer rate of 54mbs (thats mega bits btw)
cable connection (Or 'LAN Cable') has 100mbs transfer rate

so connecting by wireless will show a latency issue...

3 - 4 mbps is about right over a 10mb connection...
thanks smeggle it certainly matches up with whats been happening
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:57 PM
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Wrong. I can transfer files over 802.11g at home at speeds of 20Mb and the router is in the attic.

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How old is the laptop. Does it definately have 802.11g and it's not b only? What is the make and model of the router?

Check your routers settings to make sure it is set to '802.11g only'.

Try different channel's in the router settings. Restart the router after changing channels and restart your connection on the laptop.

Are other computers working online at the same time you connect using the wifi?


If all the above are checked and still having problems post back here and we'll look more indepth.
99.9% of routers are set on 802.11g by default being it is the industry standard like....

if you also notice that perse said was that he can only get 3-4mb of a 10mb connection (10MegaByte) whereas on the PC (connected via LAN no doubt) they can get the full 100megabits (or near enough the full 10 Mega Bytes)

what your getting is 20 mbps (megabits) probably around the same as what perse is getting which is about right

so ok I used a bit of 'Assumption' and 'Assumed' perse was talking Mega Bytes (Which is technically wrong granted) however 3 - 4 Mb's (Mega Bytes) is about right on a 54mbps connection (54 Mega bits per second)

8 bits = 1 byte...or 8b = 1B.

or
Mega (M) refers to a number of 2^20 or 1048576, which is approximately 1 million in the decimal counting system.

In other words:
1Mb (1 megabit) = 1048576 bits and
In binary, 1 megabit (1 with 20 zeros) would look like this:
1 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000

1MB (1 megabyte) = 1048576 bytes = 8388608 bits
In binary, 1 megabyte (1 with 23 zeros) would look like this:
1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000


Therefore in the case of your router:
54 megabits per second is
54Mbps = 56623104 bits/sec.

This would be less than 54 megabytes per second, which would be 54 megabits per second times 8:
54MB/s = 56623104 bytes/sec = 452984832 bits/sec.

so if over the course of 1 second we transfer 54mb's and we divide that by 8 = 6.75Mb (or thereabouts) or 6.75 MegaBytes of data. Take into account the distance that the data has to travel from point of transmission to point of reception and the time taken for encoding/decoding of that data (otherwise known as 'Transfer Latency') then 6.73Mb's (Mega Bytes) can easily become 3 - 4 Mb's (Mega Bytes)

if however Perse is only getting 3 - 4 Megabits (mb) per second then indeed a problem in settings should be suspected, especially as he is only a few feet away from the router. However if I am reading what perse wrote correctly and the key indicator would seem to be the '10Mb connection' and he is only getting 3 - 4 Mb's, then that would be about right taking into account a connection rate of 54mbps and transfer latency.
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