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Old 25-05-2018, 03:16 PM
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Google are all in on Dublin. Facebook have a small presence in Cork in the Capitol via an Occulus acquisition. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if Facebook expanded in Cork. So far there hasn't been any major Tech names taking up the new developments (aside from the small FB presence).
Facebook are expanding in Cork, they got a whole floor in the capitol building to add to whatever they had there.
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Old 25-05-2018, 03:35 PM
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A lot more thought needs to go into these types of developments before planning should be approved. There should be a much much bigger social dividend to the developments instead of simply appeasing business requirements. One development should be tasked with building a primary school/pre-school facilities. The next development should be tasked with building a secondary school. The next development should be tasked with renovating the quay frontage and walls/green spaces. The next development should be tasked with building substantial housing units into their plans (not just the token number of apartments which some developments have listed in their plans). The next development needs to be tasked with further investment into the public and private transport infrastructure.
A community needs to be built....not just glass boxes for footfall between 9am and 5pm and then the place deserted the rest of the time. If this means they need to build further upwards then so be it.
Its very short sighted to not prepare for the future. Please please please dont make the fuck up Dublin has made of the docklands in their city. People are chocked in traffic jams and luas trams trying to get to work in the docklands because all they build was hotels and offices and minimal housing.
The problem with this idea is that Cork needs Business more than Business needs Cork. If you made these tasks mandatory to go along with development nothing would get done in Cork and business would move on to Limerick, Galway and Dublin, who would all be more than happy to accommodate them.

The reality is that these developments will bring in footfall; 2,200 in Penrose Quay, 5,000 in Horgans Quay, 3,000 in Navigation Square, 500 in One Albert Quay, 450 in South Mall and 500 in the Prism. That is nearly twelve thousand extra people in the city during the day. The effect that will have on local business and the viability of the city is transformative. In terms of social developments, they will bring in rents for the council, tax in terms of (limited) corporation, PAYE and VAT....

There are plans for accommodation in the docklands, 200 apartments are already approved in Horgans Quay, there will be a few hundred in the Docklands Tower and the council have hinted that they want at least 1,000 built on the Ford Site which is currently up for sale.

As far as the plans are concerned it all seems very positive but we all saw what happened to the last plans at the end of the last decade.
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Old 25-05-2018, 06:24 PM
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A lot more thought needs to go into these types of developments before planning should be approved. There should be a much much bigger social dividend to the developments instead of simply appeasing business requirements. One development should be tasked with building a primary school/pre-school facilities. The next development should be tasked with building a secondary school. The next development should be tasked with renovating the quay frontage and walls/green spaces. The next development should be tasked with building substantial housing units into their plans (not just the token number of apartments which some developments have listed in their plans). The next development needs to be tasked with further investment into the public and private transport infrastructure.
A community needs to be built....not just glass boxes for footfall between 9am and 5pm and then the place deserted the rest of the time. If this means they need to build further upwards then so be it.
Well, that's one guaranteed way to ensure that Cork City stays stagnant.
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Old 31-05-2018, 10:38 AM
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Google are all in on Dublin. Facebook have a small presence in Cork in the Capitol via an Occulus acquisition. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if Facebook expanded in Cork. So far there hasn't been any major Tech names taking up the new developments (aside from the small FB presence).
Citygate is full. Dell, Solarwinds, Fireeye, Intel, etc.

Cork is the main hub in Ireland for cyber security
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Old 18-06-2018, 12:42 PM
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New container facility to be built at Ringaskiddy, opening up Tivoli for development. That area has great potential, with good transport links. What would people like to see going in there? A linear park with public access to the riverside would be a must.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/971327/
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Old 18-06-2018, 01:02 PM
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New container facility to be built at Ringaskiddy, opening up Tivoli for development. That area has great potential, with good transport links. What would people like to see going in there? A linear park with public access to the riverside would be a must.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/971327/
City should be developed in that direction , all along the river and around PUC . Will end up like Dublin with urban sprawl West and North with all the usual problems of transport , schools etc. Mad Ted.
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Old 18-06-2018, 01:05 PM
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City should be developed in that direction , all along the river and around PUC . Will end up like Dublin with urban sprawl West and North with all the usual problems of transport , schools etc. Mad Ted.
Yeah, agree. The river isn't enough of a feature in the city anyway.
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Old 18-06-2018, 02:20 PM
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The problem with this idea is that Cork needs Business more than Business needs Cork. If you made these tasks mandatory to go along with development nothing would get done in Cork and business would move on to Limerick, Galway and Dublin, who would all be more than happy to accommodate them.

The reality is that these developments will bring in footfall; 2,200 in Penrose Quay, 5,000 in Horgans Quay, 3,000 in Navigation Square, 500 in One Albert Quay, 450 in South Mall and 500 in the Prism. That is nearly twelve thousand extra people in the city during the day. The effect that will have on local business and the viability of the city is transformative. In terms of social developments, they will bring in rents for the council, tax in terms of (limited) corporation, PAYE and VAT....

There are plans for accommodation in the docklands, 200 apartments are already approved in Horgans Quay, there will be a few hundred in the Docklands Tower and the council have hinted that they want at least 1,000 built on the Ford Site which is currently up for sale.

As far as the plans are concerned it all seems very positive but we all saw what happened to the last plans at the end of the last decade.
Cork needs some regular 4 figure job announcements and lots of them.

I see AWS adding to Dublin 1K jobs today.

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Old 18-06-2018, 08:32 PM
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Yeah, agree. The river isn't enough of a feature in the city anyway.
What do you want? The indians in cork to start throwing their dead in the Lee thinking that its the Ganges?
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Old 19-06-2018, 12:10 PM
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Bam again , should be a limit on many contracts one company can win in a certain period of time , spread the work around.
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