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Old 05-01-2018, 11:32 AM
Pablo Escobar Pablo Escobar is offline
 
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Distance is the same but it is handier as the walk is flat and you don't have to go up the incline of the lower Glanmire road. It's made a big difference to buses alright.
The thing is that there are ticket machines at the new entrance too so you don't have to loop around and into the main building. Plus, if coming from an area south or to the east of Albert Quay it likely makes a lot more sense.

Either way, I was pretty impressed with the job that was done. It'll be great when that area is rejuvenated.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:38 AM
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I think the fact that it's "facing" the Bus Office is supposed to be part of a public transport tie in. A shuttle bus over and back from the Bus Office to the Train Station and maybe take in Patrick's Bridge would "bring" the station into the city.
Once Taxis are around on the river side there'll be no need to travel all the way around costing time and money.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:59 AM
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The bus station should have been incorporated into the site also creating a proper public transport hub with a frequent bus service into the city centre and beyond. Incorporate a coach station also for the other operators (Aircoach etc.) instead of the open quayside they currently use. However this being what it is CIE would never agree to that.
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Old 05-01-2018, 12:37 PM
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The bus station should have been incorporated into the site also creating a proper public transport hub with a frequent bus service into the city centre and beyond. Incorporate a coach station also for the other operators (Aircoach etc.) instead of the open quayside they currently use. However this being what it is CIE would never agree to that.
What you're suggesting is a proper municipal tranist hub. And I agree 100% with your suggestion. However, when you have some Bus Eireann driver phoning local radio complaining about the way that Aircoach have an unfair advantage because they don't have to bear the cost of maintaining the bus station then you begin to realise that the unions perceive that valuable pieces of public infrastructure are "theirs" and that the private sector should be kept out at all costs.

Imagine if when the airport was built by the state back in the early '60s that only Aer Lingus were allowed to use it. At the time, that was owned by the state, just like bus eireann is now.

That would obviously never work because it's an international airport, but the bus station and train stations will never allow private operators in (apart from taxis) because the unions want to continue to profit from the status quo.
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:01 PM
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Distance is the same but it is handier as the walk is flat and you don't have to go up the incline of the lower Glanmire road. It's made a big difference to buses alright.
There are bigger inclines on the pitches of GAA clubs in west Cork. It'll keep the fatties in check.

Better there's an entrance on the quay now though to be fair.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:59 AM
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Their Property Dept are a useless shower but how would the electricity for an electrified system be generated without causing pollution, hmm?
Wind power? Lol.
Electric trains polute far less than desiel trains even considering the original source of power.
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2012/jul/16/electric-trains-diesel-green-carbon
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:08 AM
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The bus station should have been incorporated into the site also creating a proper public transport hub with a frequent bus service into the city centre and beyond. Incorporate a coach station also for the other operators (Aircoach etc.) instead of the open quayside they currently use. However this being what it is CIE would never agree to that.
Why should CIE facilitate its competition on the bus routes? Could you see Marks and Spencer build an area in their shop to accommodate Dunnes?
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:11 AM
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Why should CIE facilitate its competition on the bus routes?
Yet you would like pubs selling their own brands in Cork to facilitate their competition.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:11 PM
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Why should CIE facilitate its competition on the bus routes? Could you see Marks and Spencer build an area in their shop to accommodate Dunnes?
Large department stores have concessions to other brand and products all the time.

Competition is a nightmare for the heavily subsidised and unionised Bus and Train workers but a boon for bus and rail passengers offering a cheaper reliable service. See the recently launched bus to Cobh which thetrain workers facilitated by going on strike the week of its launch last year.

We do not need a bus station in the centre of the city. When buses are sitting there they are not making money and just polluting the place. In France you can have 3 or 4 bus companies operating in cities with stops right next to each other and France is a heavily socialised unionised state.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:43 PM
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Why should CIE facilitate its competition on the bus routes? Could you see Marks and Spencer build an area in their shop to accommodate Dunnes?
Because CIE is a publicly owned utility designed to deliver transport services to the public. The bus station and railway stations are publicly funded pieces of infrastructure just like the airport and the electricity grid.

They need to be made available to all operators, not just state owned ones, just like the airport and electricity grid are.
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