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Old 18-06-2015, 08:59 AM
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Default Kent Station's New Entrance

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/...begin-in-july/

Cork's railway station get's 'new entrance' to improve connections to city centre. What a disappointment. This was originally supposed to be a new building; where the city's railway station turned around to address its city centre and promoted redevelopment on the north docks. It was then scaled down to a smaller building and tunnel. Then it was scaled down again to a few ticket machines, a stairway and tunnel. This is how Cork gets treated by the NTA, as a little backwater town where no one can justify any reasonable investment.

Is there any ambition in this City?
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Old 18-06-2015, 09:23 AM
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http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/...begin-in-july/

Cork's railway station get's 'new entrance' to improve connections to city centre. What a disappointment. This was originally supposed to be a new building; where the city's railway station turned around to address its city centre and promoted redevelopment on the north docks. It was then scaled down to a smaller building and tunnel. Then it was scaled down again to a few ticket machines, a stairway and tunnel. This is how Cork gets treated by the NTA, as a little backwater town where no one can justify any reasonable investment.

Is there any ambition in this City?
What is that building stuck onto the red bricked curved wall. It looks like a 1980s extension on a semi d.
What chance has Cork of ever getting light rail or BRT if this the best they can do with the train station.
This is why Simon Coveney has to cheer lead BAM and JCD as he's knows that there will be little investment in Cork by government.

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Old 24-06-2015, 10:57 PM
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What is that building stuck onto the red bricked curved wall. It looks like a 1980s extension on a semi d.
What chance has Cork of ever getting light rail or BRT if this the best they can do with the train station.
This is why Simon Coveney has to cheer lead BAM and JCD as he's knows that there will be little investment in Cork by government.
The building is the original signal cabin for the station.
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Old 18-06-2015, 09:53 AM
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The "little back water town" reference is the reason why I believe the metro expansion of the city boundary is paramount. We might think we are the centre of the universe but a lot of civil servants and politicians would never associate Cork city with a pop of 250k to 300k, it is a regional hub of 100k to them and that's about it!

On Kent Station, at least there is a bit of a change happening, still a very bad reflection on local politicians and their ability to get any government investment in the city.
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Old 18-06-2015, 02:08 PM
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Does this mean a change to the under-rail tunnel that is there?
Used be my favourite part of going to Dublin when I was a smallie.
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Old 18-06-2015, 02:16 PM
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http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/...begin-in-july/

Cork's railway station get's 'new entrance' to improve connections to city centre. What a disappointment. This was originally supposed to be a new building; where the city's railway station turned around to address its city centre and promoted redevelopment on the north docks. It was then scaled down to a smaller building and tunnel. Then it was scaled down again to a few ticket machines, a stairway and tunnel. This is how Cork gets treated by the NTA, as a little backwater town where no one can justify any reasonable investment.

Is there any ambition in this City?
What a shame - They have the perfect site to turn the station around like you said, address the waterfront and the city; and bring the bus station over there too so that we would have a genuine transport hub in an excellent location. The current bus station site could be sold off as a development site than
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Old 18-06-2015, 02:50 PM
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What a shame - They have the perfect site to turn the station around like you said, address the waterfront and the city; and bring the bus station over there too so that we would have a genuine transport hub in an excellent location. The current bus station site could be sold off as a development site than


The transport hub needs to be central or have ready cheap and prompt public access to the centre. Bus Station is OK where it is but there should be a priority bus route linking it directly over and back with the train station.

There MUST be a two way system directly between the city centre and the trainstation imho
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Old 18-06-2015, 02:56 PM
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The transport hub needs to be central or have ready cheap and prompt public access to the centre. Bus Station is OK where it is but there should be a priority bus route linking it directly over and back with the train station.

There MUST be a two way system directly between the city centre and the trainstation imho
The train station would be about 5 mins walk max to the top of Pana if the entrance was onto the water!

Getting the busses associated with the bus station operations out of Merchants Quay would be a great thing for the city in terms of congestion and pollution
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Old 18-06-2015, 03:27 PM
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The train station would be about 5 mins walk max to the top of Pana if the entrance was onto the water!

Getting the busses associated with the bus station operations out of Merchants Quay would be a great thing for the city in terms of congestion and pollution
From the Statue to even the edge of the CIE property on Horgan's Quay/Penrose Quay junction is 700 meters. That's more than 5 minutes walk for most I'm afraid - but with proper frequent rapid cheap public transport in both directions it could certainly make it feel more central. And there's oceans of space down there should the Bus Station be moved (can't see that happening though tbh)
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Old 21-06-2015, 09:55 PM
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From the Statue to even the edge of the CIE property on Horgan's Quay/Penrose Quay junction is 700 meters. That's more than 5 minutes walk for most I'm afraid - but with proper frequent rapid cheap public transport in both directions it could certainly make it feel more central. And there's oceans of space down there should the Bus Station be moved (can't see that happening though tbh)
You'd think it would make sense to just have a bus going from the train station to the bus station to the statue all day long, but there is probably some bus drivers union rule against driving routes that might make the driver dizzy so it could never happen.
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