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Old 28-08-2012, 08:56 AM
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The one sad thing about all this is that we are probably going to end up with jerry Adams as Taoiseach when labour implode in Dublin over the property tax and fine Gael reap the whirlwind of their education strategy, abortion, and the property tax. They've been stitched up perfectly by ff. They are realising now that they aren't in "power," merely in "office."

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Old 28-08-2012, 09:06 AM
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The one sad thing about all this is that we are probably going to end up with jerry Adams as Taoiseach when labour implode in Dublin over the property tax and fine Gael reap the whirlwind of their education strategy, abortion, and the property tax. They've been stitched up perfectly by ff. They are realising now that they aren't in "power," merely in "office."
Seeing as Labour has not had a Taoseach and Sinn Fein are happy to impliment and pay property taxes up North on behalf of Her Majesty's Treasury Gerry Adams will never be in charge of anything apart from the stationery cupboard if he is lucky*.


*printer cartridges will be under armed guard.
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Old 28-08-2012, 09:48 AM
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This government will get at least a second term.
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Old 28-08-2012, 10:01 AM
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I'm not saying it's a good thing, I am merely reflecting the trajectory of the opinion polls and not the respective party policies.
Opinion polls are meaningless.

SF are in opposition and as a rabble rousing party are opposed to everything in the media and promise a pain free future where someone else pays for everything and nothing gets cut in some quasi Socialist fantasyland.Like Fianna Fail 30 years ago. The blame Westminister for all the cuts they impliment up North and down south we blame the Troika and Fianna Fail for all the cuts.

Sam Smyth: SF's policy is hypocrisy -- on both sides of Border
Monday May 14 2012

FLYING high in the opinion polls, Sinn Fein speaks from both sides of its mouth when it talks about spending cuts in the South and government budgets in the North.

And the coalition parties of Fine Gael and the Labour Party have now joined the SDLP and UUP in the North to cast Sinn Fein as hypocrites.

Fianna Fail, its opposition rivals in the Dail, have lashed Sinn Fein's "spend, spend, spend" message in Dublin while signing off on welfare cuts in Belfast.

In the Northern Ireland Executive, Sinn Fein ministers have implemented swingeing spending cuts -- while objecting to budget cuts from the opposition benches in the Republic.

Sinn Fein has avoided the responsibilities of economic ministries in the Northern Ireland Executive, opting instead for the less controversial departments of education, agriculture and culture and the arts.

But while it continually calls for more funds for jobs in the Republic, the administration in Belfast underspent their budget in Invest NI -- the North's equivalent of the IDA -- by almost €50m.

Critics dismiss Sinn Fein's claim that the British government imposes the cuts in various sectors, including welfare, and point out that the party makes a legislative choice by voting for cuts in the North.

"The assembly has parity with Westminster, unlike the taxation regime, so welfare cuts are a legislative choice of the assembly," said a leading academic in Belfast.

"And Sinn Fein has made no substantive effort to change this parity principle despite their stated position."

Observers also point out that despite taking millions in expenses, Sinn Fein has consistently refused to take its seats at Westminster to put their case against cuts.

Sinn Fein double-speak was highlighted on March 10, 2010, when Sinn Fein voted in the Northern Ireland Assembly to cut government spending by Stg£3bn (€5bn) over four years.

But in his reply to the Budget nine months later, Caoimhghin O Caolain, its then leader in the Dail, said: "For out part, we in Sinn Fein are quite clear: we have rejected the consensus on cuts."

In Dublin, Sinn Fein has called for a €100,000 cap on public servants in the Republic. Yet in Belfast, a recent recruiting advertisement seeking a CEO for the First Legislative Counsel in the Office of the First and Deputy First Minister, offers a salary of up to Stg£205,000 (€255,000).

Below are listed examples of Sinn Fein's forked-tongue approach to government spending and budget cuts, North and South:

EDUCATION

In the Republic, Sean Crowe, Sinn Fein's spokesman on education, warned about the closure of rural schools in February of this year.

Mr Crowe accused the Government of "targeting mainstream and particularly small rural schools to spread unjust cuts . . ."

But in the North, Sinn Fein's Education Minister John O'Dowd said a "sustainable schools policy could lead to the closure of 70 schools".

In November of last year, Mr O'Dowd said: "I have therefore decided to close the (two rural) schools in (Co Armagh) as I am confident that the children's needs can be best met at alternative schools in the area."

HOUSEHOLD CHARGES

In the Republic, Sinn Fein has repeatedly attacked the introduction of a €100 household charge.

But in the North, Sinn Fein in government implements household taxes more than ten times higher than the proposed household charge in the Republic.

A householder in Derry with a house worth the average price in the North pays an annual charge of Stg£1,259 (€1,42.

WATER CHARGES

In the Republic, Sinn Fein has campaigned against the introduction of water charges.

But Sinn Fein MLA Mitchell McLaughlin has defended water charges in the North, a separate charge on top of the household charge there, and attacked the SDLP for opposing them.

Sinn Fein's former regional development minister Conor Murphy declined to reverse the decision to meter water in the North when he was in office.

WELFARE CUTS

In the Republic, Sinn Fein has opposed all cuts in social welfare since the economic crisis began.

In the North, Sinn Fein in government has signed off on welfare cuts that could total Stg£600m (€747m).

One in 10 welfare recipients in the North -- significantly more than any other part of Britain -- are on disability allowance.

But Sinn Fein is prepared to impose a Stg£500-a-week (€622) cap on households receiving it.

REPOSSESSION OF HOMES

In the North, repossession of homes has doubled in the past two years -- more than 1,000 homeowners had to return their door keys, despite Sinn Fein sharing power in government.

Yet in the Dail, Sinn Fein constantly criticises the Government for house repossessions.
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Old 29-08-2012, 07:58 AM
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Excellent post from Stacky. It's a question of the number of people SF will fool. I suspect that 15% is their maximum. Not enough to to get a SF Taoiseach.

Whether we like it or not, the only alternative to FG/Lab is FF, in coalition with some other party - maybe Labour.
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Old 29-08-2012, 08:01 AM
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FG Lab for at least 7 more years.
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Old 29-08-2012, 08:24 AM
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By the way I'm really enjoying watching that fat bearded fucker James Reilly squirming while his bosses in the Troika tell him that he doesn't have the option of allowing the HSE run up a €500 million budgetary overrun this year. The likes of FG-FF-Lab-SF as well as the defunct PDs and Greens are finally bereft of any authority whatsoever.

Our elected bureaucrats fucked up the place big time: let the unelected bureaucrats have a shot now.
That is why I voted "Yes" to the fiscal treaty.

The days of semi-ignorant toothless gobshites from South Kerry or former gunmen from Belfast destroying the place with mad promises are over.

Let Hans, Francois and Wilhelm put some fiscal discipline on this plase after Bertie & Co. destroyed the finances of this place and employed a massive admistrative beaurocracy in the HSE, County and City Councils etc getting paid small fortunes.
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Old 25-09-2012, 12:22 AM
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James Reilly is a liability and is a worthy successor to Mary Harney as one of the poorest health mininisters this country has ever had.
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Old 26-09-2012, 02:11 PM
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This was a month after travellers had been burnt out of their house in KKK (sp?):

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking35.html

The man is an utter scumbag.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:23 PM
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Surprise, surprise yer man the traveller has a number of convictions.
A lot of people owe big Phil an apology on this one.

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