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Old 26-07-2012, 10:09 AM
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I think Katie could come unstuck with the games being in London, as there will be so much increased pressure on her with all the extra Irish in attendance. That said at least she is seeded straight into the Quarters, so only has to win one bout to secure a medal, the least she deserves.
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Old 26-07-2012, 10:46 AM
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I think you may be underestimating the character and mental strength of Katie.

She is going to win the Gold.
I very much hope so on both counts.
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Old 26-07-2012, 08:57 PM
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i find womens boxing offensive


You'd probably prefer to watch them mud wrestling!
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Old 26-07-2012, 09:45 PM
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Tear jerking lad....riveting stuff ...stuff films are made from.

Eammon coughlan the dubs would try and tell you he is the best ever.

No way pedro.

He allowed a 40 year old new zealander walker beat him for the medal.


Hes our greatesest athlete without a shadow of a doubt.

No bullshit...just courage..conviction. ..belief and skill and as the great lord mayor cork on hunger strike once said...its not those thay inflict the most but rather those that endure the most succeed.
He was one of them.
Their was no glory hunting from him.
Some sportspeople are all "fur coat no knickers ...all talk no success to back it up.

Not Dr.Pat.
A legend.
Katie taylor i wish her the best...she a true irish heroine from wicklow and doing ireland proud.
I do not agree with your assessment of Coughlan---it was tough being 4th best in the World twice--but neverless he was a truly great athlete ---tactical naievity cost him a medal in the first final--he kicked too early--in the second final he was sick the day before the final and in fairness to the man he never mentioned this and it only emerged years later when Jerry McKiernan a fellow Olympian brought it to light.

However O Callaghan was indisputably Irelands ever Greatest Olympian and Sports politics prevented him from winning a third gold in Berlin and he was forced to watch from the stands as the German won the hammer gold. At that time O Callaghan then in his prime was throwing 10 feet longer than the winning throw
Cork Athletes have won 8 Olympic medals and there must be something in the waters of North Cork as it accounted for 6 of these with three medals going to Banteer --Thady Quill would be proud!
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:18 AM
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I do not agree with your assessment of Coughlan---it was tough being 4th best in the World twice--but neverless he was a truly great athlete ---tactical naievity cost him a medal in the first final--he kicked too early--in the second final he was sick the day before the final and in fairness to the man he never mentioned this and it only emerged years later when Jerry McKiernan a fellow Olympian brought it to light.

However O Callaghan was indisputably Irelands ever Greatest Olympian and Sports politics prevented him from winning a third gold in Berlin and he was forced to watch from the stands as the German won the hammer gold. At that time O Callaghan then in his prime was throwing 10 feet longer than the winning throw
Cork Athletes have won 8 Olympic medals and there must be something in the waters of North Cork as it accounted for 6 of these with three medals going to Banteer --Thady


Quill would be proud!

heres some read you would like.
While a kerry man iron mike spent a lot of hes life in banteer and is well known in these parts.

Meeting The Iron Man Of Irish Cycling Feb 24, 2006, 17:48 By Micheal O Muircheartaigh****** *********Sunday October 29* 2006 Meeting the Iron Man of Irish cycling* I WAS led on a pleasant detour by Caherciveen butcher and golfer Jimmy Curran to meet somebody known as 'The Iron Man', on account of his exploits as a cyclist back in the 1950s. Cycling as a sport was gaining popularity back then, and the annual stage race around Ireland, An Ras Tailteann, now known as the FBD Insurance Ras, was responsible for a great deal of it. The Christle brothers, especially the late big man Joe, were the principal organisers and their motivation came from a nationalistic fervour and a love of all aspects of Irish culture. They were inspired by the Tour de France and had a vision of developing such a spectacle in Ireland in their time. Joe Christle was a great character and a brilliant organiser and I cannot recall an occasion when we spoke other than in Irish. He was married to a French lady, Mimi Battutt. Years later, I taught Mel Christle, one of Joe and Mimi's three boxing sons, when I was on the teaching staff at O'Connell School in North Richmond St, Dublin. Joe served a few prison sentences due to his involvement in republican causes, but he remained as Ras Director until 1972. The whole family served cycling well but one of them, Ando, was sadly killed near Tralee following an accident during the Ras of 1954. He had returned from England to help in the running of the race, and was driving a motorbike out of Tralee to watch his brother Colm in the closing stages. The leaders had already crossed the finishing line, but Colm had had a day of puncture problems so he was well behind; concern for him was the reason for Ando's drive out of town, which finished in that fatal accident. Understandably, all members of the Gate Club, which included the Christles, retired from the race. Those and other thoughts from the past were on my mind as Jimmy Curran and I approached the home of the Iron Man, Mike Murphy, a unique type of champion who hit the headlines in a major way in the course of winning the 1958 Ras. When I entered the house, I was expecting to see mementos from his sporting days, but the opposite was the case. Conventional furnishings were Spartan, in keeping with his lifestyle of the past 60 years: books, magazines, newspapers and an assortment of timber planks took up most of the space and he kindly fixed up a wooden seat for us, which was comfortable. Time did not seem to matter and I felt he was far more anxious to talk about topics other than cycling during our stay. I would naturally have preferred the reverse, considering it was cycling that had made him famous, but I let him speak as he wished and still managed to get a good insight into hiscycling escapades. He was a man who had left school early and had learned how to read and write from his mother, but he amazed me with his detailed knowledge of the Hapsburg dynasty in Europe and the Royals of Spain and how they had influenced the history of Europe. It was the same when it came to the Papacy; it soon became clear that this semi-mystic had read a lot. He is conscious of the benefits of a good diet when in training, and maintains that this knowledge helped him in his cycling days: "raw foods are best - meat, eggs, cheese, vegetables, honey - and I always took quantities of cows' blood when I felt it was needed." He told me how he always carried a penknife with him and knew how to extract blood from a cow's vein without causing any damage. He was anxious to tell me about his circus acting, something that started by accident when he was very young: "My neighbour Joe Burke performed with touring circuses that came this way now and then, and he took me on as his assistant at the age of 12.I was very interested in their training methods, weights and all of that, and before long I made my own gym here in the house." An incredible number of weights of all sizes, obviously home-made with concrete, were on display along with the iron bars required for lifting and squatting. They certainly played a part in his fairytale rise to the position of champion cyclist of Ireland in 1958 because he was known as a man with phenomenal strength, but he seemed more interested in telling me about history and his circus life before talking about the bike racing: "I learned how to move along upside-down using my feet, going from rung to rung of a ladder suspended above a stage. I could balance objects on my chin. I was a fire-eater. I could walk on my hands and performed those tricks on the streets of London and in other places years later when I needed money. One time, a man in London issued a challenge to race hand-walking from Brighton to London, taking rests every now and then. I volunteered to take him on, but he never showed up." We eventually got around to talk about cycling. By then, I had spotted a small photograph of a man on a bicycle above the fireplace and I went to inspect it. It was a photo of the Iron Man. I learned later that this, the only visible souvenir, referred to a stage of the famous Ras of 1958 when he confounded the cycling world by winning. His interest in cycling developed from attending carnivals and sports meets all over Kerry, where prizes were offered to the winners - sometimes in the form of cash. Distance was not a problem, as he explained himself: "I remember leaving here on a common bike one day to cycle the 60 miles to Camp to take part in a cycle race. I won the race and cycled back home again." Sometimes he might not return but stay, set up circus acts, sleep rough and prepare for a meet coming up shortly in another town. From his circus connections he got the latest information on training techniques, and by 1956, he had decided to try and take on the best in cycling. Training then became more intensive, but due to his day job as a farm labourer, he did a lot of his training on the mountains by night. The final preparation for the 1958 Ras was carried out in a private camp close to Banteer in Cork, where he was working as a labourer. He created another 'gym' in a quiet wooded spot, trained as never before, gave up work, did stunts in Cork City and felt really ready for the Ras. As usual, the Ras Tailteann began outside the GPO in Dublin and the 1958 race was the longest ever staged - 1,494km over eight gruelling days. "I believed in striking to the front any chance I got and defied others to beat me," was how Mike explained his pre-race plan to me. He was not too concerned about team tactics or other race customs: "I had confidence in myself." Tom Daly's account of the race is given in his excellent book simply called The Ras, which charts the history of the race from 1953 to 2002. Stage 1 - Dublin to Wexford: Won by Dan Ahern of Kerry with the unknown Murphy claiming second place. Stage 2 - Wexf
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:34 AM
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I do not agree with your assessment of Coughlan---it was tough being 4th best in the World twice--but neverless he was a truly great athlete ---tactical naievity cost him a medal in the first final--he kicked too early--in the second final he was sick the day before the final and in fairness to the man he never mentioned this and it only emerged years later when Jerry McKiernan a fellow Olympian brought it to light.

However O Callaghan was indisputably Irelands ever Greatest Olympian and Sports politics prevented him from winning a third gold in Berlin and he was forced to watch from the stands as the German won the hammer gold. At that time O Callaghan then in his prime was throwing 10 feet longer than the winning throw
Cork Athletes have won 8 Olympic medals and there must be something in the waters of North Cork as it accounted for 6 of these with three medals going to Banteer --Thady Quill would be proud!
A very good athelete but no way up their with the worlds best ...the true greats...athletes that dont talk the talk but walk the walk...have the skill backed backef up by raw courage....balls...b elief and conviction...coughla n lacked those.

To be beaten by an old man was madness.

Now fair enough he made a mistake...but in 1980 he again made bad tactics.

I dont buy this sickness lark.

Look at sonia a true great athlete way more balls than coughlan..she was sick in 96 ...and too young and inexpierenced to be beaten by chalmers for a medal in bareclina but went to hell and back to win a silver in 2000.

She even had a mid race crisis but unlike coughlan faced advertsity head on and came out the other side.

Sabo just beat her for the gold....sonia coudnt be faulted she gave her best and was beaten...coughlan was fine with his world mile records and hes one worldchamionship...c redit due but no way is he a really great athelete.
He failed twice when it mattered the most.

Anway back to katie taylor.

I think she will have to thread carefully but i do believe she will win gold....once the judges dont cost her.

You never can tell with them.

Chinese girl chen dong is the danger and she meets her i hope the judges arent from asia or eastern european etc.

Shes a credit to her county wicklow and a credit to ireland.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:40 AM
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The funny thing about katie taylor is that she has already achieved more than other irish athletes, she is a multiple irish, european and world champion and medal or no medal at the olympics she has done more in her own sport, while also reaching the highest domestic level in another than anybody else. If she was a male athlete having won those awards the hype would be incredible.

She is the best non pro female boxer in the world, lets just hope the variables go her way in the next few weeks and she achieves a dream that her and her camp have put so much time and effort into.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:52 AM
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Great athlete, nothing but respect for the girl.

But I have an awful feeling she is going to get shafted BIG TIME in these games.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:53 AM
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The funny thing about katie taylor is that she has already achieved more than other irish athletes, she is a multiple irish, european and world champion and medal or no medal at the olympics she has done more in her own sport, while also reaching the highest domestic level in another than anybody else. If she was a male athlete having won those awards the hype would be incredible.

She is the best non pro female boxer in the world, lets just hope the variables go her way in the next few weeks and she achieves a dream that her and her camp have put so much time and effort into.
A great post.

The dublin media dont quite see her as the darling as shes from wicklow and boxes from a small gym in bray than the big smoke.
Thats why she win gold....and is better served not like kenny egan....one medal he thought he was muhamaed.

Katie taylor is the ali of womens boxing and your right was a super soccer player.
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Old 27-07-2012, 12:05 PM
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she's playing the build up well. no interviews or features just getting on with her training away from the glare of the media, i'm sure her camp are doing their best to keep her out of the spotlight. she's worked too hard over the past 4 years to let the pressure of the build up get to her. she'll do it.
btw what happened to the official katie taylor thread?
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