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Old 21-10-2019, 06:44 PM
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Sean Whelan RTE

"So it's back to 1604 - the origin of the convention that the House of Commons cannot debate the same issue twice in the same session.

Speaker John Bercow said the government motion seeking parliamentary approval of the Brexit deal was the same one MPs voted on 48 hours previously.

On Saturday MPs backed the so-called Letwin amendment, requiring the government to get all of the necessary Brexit legislation passed first, and to seek an extension to the Brexit deadline from the EU if needed.

That longer path to approval opens the prospect of MPs trying to change the nature of the government's Brexit plans by amending the legislation to possibly include remaining in a customs union or holding another referendum.

The government will publish the Withdrawal Agreement Bill tonight, and seek to get it passed by the Commons and the Lords by early next week - a very challenging timetable. MPs will vote on whether to accept that timetable"

If it is amended to include remaining in the Customs Union it would ensure a soft Brexit, automatically solve the Irish Border, possibly get the support of the DUP and a majority in the HOC and drive the ERG and the hard Brexiteers apeshit. I think the EU would have no problem agreeing to this.
Interesting times ahead.
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:13 PM
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Thought Bercow is a Tory?
He is, but political norms mean nothing now.
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:18 PM
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DUP looking to support Labour strategy while in a confidence and supply agreement with the Tories.
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:28 PM
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DUP looking to support Labour strategy while in a confidence and supply agreement with the Tories.
And walked out of stormont today. What a shower of Morons.
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:59 PM
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Thought Bercow is a Tory?
He was but he's been on a journey 😂.lib demish now.
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Old 22-10-2019, 07:59 AM
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Old 22-10-2019, 08:36 AM
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The DUP MPs spent yesterday at Westminster arguing that Northern Ireland must not be treated any differently to the rest of the UK.



Also yesterday DUP MLAs were at Stormont, Belfast demanding that Northern Ireland be treated differently to the rest of the UK.


They are arguing against the Brexit that they thought that they wanted and have trapped themselves in their own beliefs while the people disagree.
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Old 22-10-2019, 08:41 AM
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The DUP MPs spent yesterday at Westminster arguing that Northern Ireland must not be treated any differently to the rest of the UK.



Also yesterday DUP MLAs were at Stormont, Belfast demanding that Northern Ireland be treated differently to the rest of the UK.


They are arguing against the Brexit that they thought that they wanted and have trapped themselves in their own beliefs while the people disagree.

That's always been the DUP way though. They've ruled the roost in the north for so long they see nothing wrong with their Chameleon Politics as there was never anyone strong enough on their own to punish their hypocrisy in the ballot box. Changing times.
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Old 22-10-2019, 08:44 AM
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The DUP MPs spent yesterday at Westminster arguing that Northern Ireland must not be treated any differently to the rest of the UK.



Also yesterday DUP MLAs were at Stormont, Belfast demanding that Northern Ireland be treated differently to the rest of the UK.


They are arguing against the Brexit that they thought that they wanted and have trapped themselves in their own beliefs while the people disagree.
YCNMIU, Both main parties up there are using people as pawns in their game,
Id be very critical of SF here in that they say Britain has no right to interfere or legislate in irish affairs but seem very happy to accept this ,
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Old 22-10-2019, 08:51 AM
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YCNMIU, Both main parties up there are using people as pawns in their game,
Id be very critical of SF here in that they say Britain has no right to interfere or legislate in irish affairs but seem very happy to accept this ,
Are you similarly critical of the Alliance and SDLP jimmy?

Whether we like it or not Abortion and Same Sex Marriage are already on the statute books in this jurisdiction - SF have already campaigned on behalf of both. Do you think SF should object to the imposition of rules that pertain south of the border, just because it's the HOC that threatened it as a lever to try get the DUP back into Stormont and when the DUP refused to go back to Stormont on the previously agreed terms, the HOC carried out their "threat" of regularising the legislation right across these islands, even on the last hold-out corner?
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