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Old 28-08-2012, 09:48 AM
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On the basis that GMAC and Rory may well play their fourball and foursome matches together, the 11/8 on offer for GMAC to be the top Irish points scorer is decent value. Could just come down to him having an easier singles match. And he has done well previously.

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Old 29-08-2012, 09:24 AM
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Some absolute rubbish being spouted on here about Olazabal. Olazabal was a great player, two times masters champion and a phenonemal Ryder Cup player.

He has been saying for a few weeks that Harrington has not been playing well enough to get a wild card. Harrington actually praised him for being honest, which meant Harrington played the last few weeks much more relaxed.

Harrington is a media darling (ass kisser) and Olazabal isn't, hence the so called controversy. Harrington bases his whole year around majors, so it's no surprise he did ok. In most of the regular tournaments, he never came near challenging for a win. He was very lucky to get a pick in 2010, thank god he didn't get picked this time, because his record is abysmal.
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Old 29-08-2012, 09:54 AM
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Some absolute rubbish being spouted on here about Olazabal. Olazabal was a great player, two times masters champion and a phenonemal Ryder Cup player.

He has been saying for a few weeks that Harrington has not been playing well enough to get a wild card. Harrington actually praised him for being honest, which meant Harrington played the last few weeks much more relaxed.

Harrington is a media darling (ass kisser) and Olazabal isn't, hence the so called controversy. Harrington bases his whole year around majors, so it's no surprise he did ok. In most of the regular tournaments, he never came near challenging for a win. He was very lucky to get a pick in 2010, thank god he didn't get picked this time, because his record is abysmal.
I hate posters who dismiss other opinions as 'absolute rubbish' and then fail to back this up. What has Olazabal's record as a player got to do with this ? Nick Faldo was a great player but a poor Ryder Cup Captain.

If you think Harrington was anything other than furious about Olazabal's comments and their timing then I give up ????

Most of the top players such as Woods & Michelson base their year around majors but that does not guarantee they play well.

Nobody disputes that Harrington's recent record in Ryder Cup is poor and it's unlikely that another manager would have picked him.

Olazabal criticised, in detail, Harrington's form - that's what a lot of people are disappointed about - he should not have engaged in criticism given the bad blood between them. You spoke about everything only that - the main issue.
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Old 29-08-2012, 10:20 AM
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Well said Barry. Sums it up perfectly tbh.
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Old 29-08-2012, 12:08 PM
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I hate posters who dismiss other opinions as 'absolute rubbish' and then fail to back this up. What has Olazabal's record as a player got to do with this ? Nick Faldo was a great player but a poor Ryder Cup Captain.

If you think Harrington was anything other than furious about Olazabal's comments and their timing then I give up ????

Most of the top players such as Woods & Michelson base their year around majors but that does not guarantee they play well.

Nobody disputes that Harrington's recent record in Ryder Cup is poor and it's unlikely that another manager would have picked him.

Olazabal criticised, in detail, Harrington's form - that's what a lot of people are disappointed about - he should not have engaged in criticism given the bad blood between them. You spoke about everything only that - the main issue.
Both have said there is no bad blood between them over that incident and that it has been water under the bridge for some time now.

Olazabal was constantly badgered about Harrington. He responded honestly and there was nothing wrong in what he said. The media have tried to turn a non event into something thats just not there.
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Old 29-08-2012, 12:09 PM
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On the basis that GMAC and Rory may well play their fourball and foursome matches together, the 11/8 on offer for GMAC to be the top UK points scorer is decent value. Could just come down to him having an easier singles match. And he has done well previously.

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Old 29-08-2012, 12:56 PM
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Both have said there is no bad blood between them over that incident and that it has been water under the bridge for some time now.

Olazabal was constantly badgered about Harrington. He responded honestly and there was nothing wrong in what he said. The media have tried to turn a non event into something thats just not there.
Do you honestly think that they are going to admit that there's bad blood between them ?

People fall out - it happens in most sports.

Awkward questions comes with the job as far as the RC Captain is concerned.
If every manager responded honestly to media questions, he'd be constantly in trouble. He went into detail about the state of Harrington's game including mentioning his putting - he made the comments before and during a Major in which Harrington was contending and repeated the comments before the 5th most important series.

That's not how RC Captains have behaved in the past - Even Faldo - Whether he has a grudge v Harrington - probably only Olazabal knows - but he was ill-advised to give detailed replies. A bland response while not good to sell newspapers - was the correct action - surely you can see this ?
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Old 29-08-2012, 01:58 PM
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I hate posters who dismiss other opinions as 'absolute rubbish' and then fail to back this up. What has Olazabal's record as a player got to do with this ? Nick Faldo was a great player but a poor Ryder Cup Captain.
What's Nick Faldo got to do with anything? Olazabal will be judged on results, and the Ryder Cup hasn't even started yet. Another thing, Faldo was never a popular player amongst his fellow pros, so it was no surprise to anyone how things panned out. Olazabal is the total opposite, he has the players total respect and he's also extremely popular, which will be a big factor for creating a great team spirit. Faldo was also stupid/arrogant enough to have only one vice-captain, another nail tactically in Team Europe's 2008 coffin.

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If you think Harrington was anything other than furious about Olazabal's comments and their timing then I give up ????
Let's cut the ??????????????????? and deal with the facts. Harrington is ON RECORD as saying, Olazabal's comments took the pressure off of him and he was able to play the last few weeks stress free. Olazabal did him a favour, STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/gol...arrington.html

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Most of the top players such as Woods & Michelson base their year around majors but that does not guarantee they play well.
They have also played well in and won regular tour events over the last two years, unlike Paddie.

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Nobody disputes that Harrington's recent record in Ryder Cup is poor and it's unlikely that another manager would have picked him.
Sorry, it's CAPTAIN. Do you actually know anything about golf?

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Olazabal criticised, in detail, Harrington's form - that's what a lot of people are disappointed about - he should not have engaged in criticism given the bad blood between them. You spoke about everything only that - the main issue.
There's no bad blood, jesus man you'd swallow a brick. You believe everything you read, obviously. Olazabal was asked questions about Harrington and he replied honestly, that Harrington wasn't playing well enough to get into the team, especially his short game was letting him down. Even the dogs in the street know this ffs man.

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Old 29-08-2012, 02:32 PM
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I hope the Americans kick their european asses all over medina.


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Old 29-08-2012, 04:28 PM
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Well thhat would be crap odds if it was 'top UK' player as the field would be gone from 2 to 7!
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