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View Poll Results: For whom will you vote in the presidential election?
Peter Casey 30 34.48%
Gavin Duffy 1 1.15%
Joan Freeman 5 5.75%
Seán Gallagher 5 5.75%
Michael D. Higgins 35 40.23%
Liadh Ní Riada 11 12.64%
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:58 PM
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I still think the Presidency is not a gift that FF/FG can or should bestow on whoever they feel like giving it to. The people of this country have the right to vote. And vote they did. And MDH is the President. But not because FF/FG gave it to him - but because the people got to vote for it.

Maybe a bit too subtle for some of ye to grasp lads
Fair play to Senator Gerard Craughwell for calling out the establishment parties, SFFFG and forcing them to make a proper election.

A strong, independent public representative who forced them out into the spotlight. Here is his statement, once he had forced the election:

In August 2017 I became concerned that the main political parties in Leinster House were working together to deny the citizens of this Republic the opportunity to select their next President by means of an election.
I feared that members of the Oireachtas and City and County Councillors would be prevented by the party whip from exercising their democratic right to nominate candidates and that the Presidency would simply be "rolled over" uncontested for another 7 years.


I strongly believe that a system which prevents candidates other than the incumbent from securing a nomination and mounting a challenge is profoundly undemocratic and completely out of line with the principles of democracy enshrined in our constitution which states that “The President shall be elected by direct vote of the people.
To ensure that there would be a presidential election in 2018, I put myself forward as a potential candidate. In doing so I opened up what has been the first serious national conversation on the presidential nomination and election process.
I welcomed the announcements last week that Sinn Féin is putting forward a candidate and that Fianna Fáil Councillors will be free to nominate independent candidates for the presidential election.
As many potential candidates have indicated their intention to seek a nomination and mount a campaign, I am now satisfied that I have achieved the objective that I set out last August.
In particular I am delighted that as the direct representatives of every community in Ireland, City and County Councillors, will have a strong and vital say in who our next President will be.

I would like to thank all those who encouraged me personally and who supported my campaign for an open and democratic election.
I will now stand aside and take no further part in the process other than to wish each and every candidate every success in their campaign.
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:39 AM
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SFFFFG are all the same. The only surprise is that people seem surprised. Soccer Jontin, Peadar Principles, Dodgy Donnchaidh, Mad Mary Lou, Lyin’ Liadh, and Patronising Pearse are just your typical gobshite politicians with extra neck.
Wish you'd make up your mind drucker - either they are all the same or they're not.

Is GAA Mehole your pal or are you more of a Simple Simey fan
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:44 AM
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Fair play to Senator Gerard Craughwell for calling out the establishment parties, SFFFG and forcing them to make a proper election.

A strong, independent public representative who forced them out into the spotlight. Here is his statement, once he had forced the election:

In August 2017 I became concerned that the main political parties in Leinster House were working together to deny the citizens of this Republic the opportunity to select their next President by means of an election.
I feared that members of the Oireachtas and City and County Councillors would be prevented by the party whip from exercising their democratic right to nominate candidates and that the Presidency would simply be "rolled over" uncontested for another 7 years.


I strongly believe that a system which prevents candidates other than the incumbent from securing a nomination and mounting a challenge is profoundly undemocratic and completely out of line with the principles of democracy enshrined in our constitution which states that “The President shall be elected by direct vote of the people.
To ensure that there would be a presidential election in 2018, I put myself forward as a potential candidate. In doing so I opened up what has been the first serious national conversation on the presidential nomination and election process.
I welcomed the announcements last week that Sinn Féin is putting forward a candidate and that Fianna Fáil Councillors will be free to nominate independent candidates for the presidential election.
As many potential candidates have indicated their intention to seek a nomination and mount a campaign, I am now satisfied that I have achieved the objective that I set out last August.
In particular I am delighted that as the direct representatives of every community in Ireland, City and County Councillors, will have a strong and vital say in who our next President will be.

I would like to thank all those who encouraged me personally and who supported my campaign for an open and democratic election.
I will now stand aside and take no further part in the process other than to wish each and every candidate every success in their campaign.

Oh dear. It's sad when folk have to explain even the basics to you drucker but FF, FG, and Lab parties, who between them have governed this state since its inception (albeit under a different title initially for FG), are the establishment parties. In the recent Presidential Election those 3 parties ALL backed the retention of the incumbent. Sinn Fein wanted there to be a Presidential Election. Yet a simpleton like you wants to try lump them all in together
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