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Old 30-04-2018, 07:51 AM
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Default Is it OK for pregnant women to booze and smoke?

Just wondering if it's purely to be a choice thing and that the pregnant lady should be entitled to end the life of the foetus anyway, then surely she should be allowed smoke and/or have a few scoops while mulling over the decision during the pregnancy? Asking for a friend.
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Old 30-04-2018, 07:59 AM
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Yep, only seems fair.

However, the fetus carrier should abstain from alcohol and cigarettes while taking the miscarriage pills.

http://www.onlineabortionpillrx.com/...dical-abortion
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Old 30-04-2018, 08:17 AM
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Just wondering if it's purely to be a choice thing and that the pregnant lady should be entitled to end the life of the foetus anyway, then surely she should be allowed smoke and/or have a few scoops while mulling over the decision during the pregnancy? Asking for a friend.
I don't agree that one follows the other. If a woman is committed to carrying a pregnancy to term then she has a duty of care towards that baby, to include not damaging it in utero by drinking and smoking.

Not sure if it should be illegal though.
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Old 30-04-2018, 08:31 AM
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Just wondering if it's purely to be a choice thing and that the pregnant lady should be entitled to end the life of the foetus anyway, then surely she should be allowed smoke and/or have a few scoops while mulling over the decision during the pregnancy? Asking for a friend.
A lady is entitled to drink or smoke through pregnancy, there are no laws to say otherwise - however there is tonnes of evidence out there that will tell you it is a really bad idea so the vast majority choose to do neither

Woman cannot have an abortion here, there is no choice to be made

Tell your friend that their grip of logic is utterly woeful.. especially given that they are supposedly an engineer
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Old 30-04-2018, 09:15 AM
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A lady is entitled to drink or smoke through pregnancy, there are no laws to say otherwise - however there is tonnes of evidence out there that will tell you it is a really bad idea so the vast majority choose to do neither

Woman cannot have an abortion here, there is no choice to be made

Tell your friend that their grip of logic is utterly woeful.. especially given that they are supposedly an engineer
Oh dear - my qualification really irks some here

I do note how folk who seem to have no issue at all with a foetus being killed/terminated/removed/(whatever cosy term you'd like to use) at the moment for up to 12 weeks, get all twitchy about "tonnes of evidence" that it's "a really bad idea" (presumably for the foetus anyway) to drink and smoke.

For them aborting the foetus is OK, but how dare you expose it to alcohol of nicotine through the mother

A friend of mine (and actually she is an engineer too) was pregnant without knowing and was smoking and drinking for quite a few weeks without realising she was pregnant. As soon as she found out she stopped smoking and drinking and her child was perfectly fine and is now a very healthy teenager as it happens.

Wonder which would have been more injurious to the foetus - aborting it or being in the womb of a mother who consumed nicotine and alcohol.


It seems that those who demand CHOICE (including abortion if she wants) for an expectant mother don't want said expectant mother to be allowed to choose cigarettes or alcohol. Funny that.
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Old 30-04-2018, 09:18 AM
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Oh dear - my qualification really irks some here

I do note how folk who seem to have no issue at all with a foetus being killed/terminated/removed/(whatever cosy term you'd like to use) at the moment for up to 12 weeks, get all twitchy about "tonnes of evidence" that it's "a really bad idea" (presumably for the foetus anyway) to drink and smoke.

For them aborting the foetus is OK, but how dare you expose it to alcohol of nicotine through the mother

A friend of mine (and actually she is an engineer too) was pregnant without knowing and was smoking and drinking for quite a few weeks without realising she was pregnant. As soon as she found out she stopped smoking and drinking and her child was perfectly fine and is now a very healthy teenager as it happens.

Wonder which would have been more injurious to the foetus - aborting it or being in the womb of a mother who consumed nicotine and alcohol.


It seems that those who demand CHOICE (including abortion if she wants) for an expectant mother don't want said expectant mother to be allowed to choose cigarettes or alcohol. Funny that.
Do you not understand that the reason that smoking and drinking are frowned upon while pregnant is because of the effect it will have on the child once it is born?
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Old 30-04-2018, 09:23 AM
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If they're planning on aborting it I suppose there's no harm in smoking and drinking up until the abortion.
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Old 30-04-2018, 09:26 AM
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Do you not understand that the reason that smoking and drinking are frowned upon while pregnant is because of the effect it will have on the child once it is born?
Obviously not
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Old 30-04-2018, 10:20 AM
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Old 30-04-2018, 10:49 AM
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I don't agree that one follows the other. If a woman is committed to carrying a pregnancy to term then she has a duty of care towards that baby, to include not damaging it in utero by drinking and smoking.

Not sure if it should be illegal though.
Speaking of legalities, what would be the situation if the proposed 12 week legislation is passed, if for example the female wanted to keep the child and the boyfriend didn't and he beat the crap out of her ensuring a miscarriage ensued.Legally speaking would he only be charged with assault up to 12 weeks and murder thereafter?

I recall a case in America where a guy got charged with a double homocide where he killed both the female and the foetus in such circumstances no it's not beyond the realms of possibilities, albeit likely to be extremely rare.
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