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Old 08-09-2018, 10:07 AM
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In Ireland Before and After the Famine Cormac O’Grada documents that in 1845, a famine year in Ireland, 3,251,907 quarters (8 bushels = 1 quarter)) of corn were exported from Ireland to Britain. That same year 257,257 sheep were exported to Britain. In 1846, another famine year, 480,827 swine and 186,483 oxen were exported to Britain.

Cecil Woodham-Smith, considered the preeminent authority on the Irish Famine, wrote in The Great Hunger; Ireland 1845-1849 that, "...no issue has provoked so much anger or so embittered relations between the two countries (England and Ireland) as the indisputable fact that huge quantities of food were exported from Ireland to England throughout the period when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation."

"Although the potato crop failed, the country was still producing and exporting more than enough grain crops to feed the population. But that was a 'money crop' and not a 'food crop' and could not be interfered with."

According to John Mitchel, quoted by Woodham-Smith, "Ireland was actually producing sufficient food, wool and flax, to feed and clothe not nine but eighteen millions of people," yet a ship sailing into an Irish port during the famine years with a cargo of grain was "sure to meet six ships sailing out with a similar cargo."

One of the most remarkable facts about the famine period is that there was an average monthly export of food from Ireland worth 100,000 Pound Sterling. Almost throughout the five-year famine, Ireland remained a net exporter of food.

Dr. Christine Kinealy, a fellow at the University of Liverpool and the author of two scholarly texts on the Irish Famine: This Great Calamity and A Death-Dealing Famine, says that 9,992 calves were exported from Ireland to England during "Black'47", an increase of thirty-three percent from the previous year. In the twelve months following the second failure of the potato crop, 4,000 horses and ponies were exported. The export of livestock to Britain (with the exception of pigs) increased during the "famine". The export of bacon and ham increased. In total, over three million live animals were exported from Ireland between 1846-50, more than the number of people who emigrated during the famine years.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:10 AM
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The Brits even admitted it was their fault ffs:

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Tony Blair has issued a statement on the Irish Potato Famine 150 years ago which amounts to the first apology expressed by the British authorities.

At a weekend festival in County Cork to commemorate the famine, which claimed one million lives, a letter was read out from the Prime Minister in which he blamed "those who governed in London"
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:11 AM
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Yes there was no shortage of food in the country, but it was exported for the profit of the landlord class. Deliberate withholding of food from the starving populace was genocide.
Those who fled on the coffin ships and died of typhus in their thousands must also be factored.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:12 AM
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Yes there was no shortage of food in the country, but it was exported for the profit of the landlord class. Deliberate withholding of food from the starving populace was genocide.
Those who fled on the coffin ships and died of typhus in their thousands must also be factored.
Yeah, just like Russians did in Ukraine, Holodomor.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:29 AM
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"If you can afford to emigrate you can afford to eat in a modest restraunt."

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Old 08-09-2018, 11:41 AM
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Must go and see the film!
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:48 PM
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:50 PM
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There was no Famine in Ireland....just Genocide by the Imperial Crown.
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:02 PM
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The Brits even admitted it was their fault ffs:
Listen m8, Blair apologised.

Look up the definition of genocide and show me one document that shows there was a wilful effort by the British government to "exterminate the Irish".

And here comes the barstooler in chief. Hi Munter.


The famine was the greatest peacetime disaster in modern european history. It was appalling as was the response of the establishment at the time but it was NOT genocide.


The past should not be forgotten but to subscribe to the Evil brits starving the Irish narrative is only bollocks that is believed by the feeble minded
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:03 PM
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An action film with the famine as a backdrop, one thing it won't do is educate the Brits about the famine. The people that laughed must've been bored or didn't understand it.
I lol'd a few times, more at the production than anything else.
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