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Old 09-08-2019, 09:03 PM
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How.

On injection centres id be more for legalizing the drug lets face it its most herion is the problem... Ensuring its safe and treating junkies as helth issues and taking the business out of the hands of those that would exploit addicts.
The fire sale of assets.
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:23 PM
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What's the solution so?..you seem to think the kid glove way works. It doesn't in my view. When heroin started to hit dublin in the 80s..it's well known thst the government could have dealt with this problem in the 70s by hitting the suppliers and giving serious sentences and implementation of zero tolerance..from the small player being dealt with strongly to act as a deterrent..instead they did nothing and left it fester and now we are reaping what we sowed.
Solution to what? Are you looking to eradicate all trace of drugs from society? Do you really think a stronger government strategy in the seventies would mean there would be no drugs in Ireland today?
People are taking drugs, there is no escaping that fact and no government strategy from the seventies eighties ninety's or today will stop that.
Harm reduction is the key today.
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:26 PM
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What’s the dating scene like at drug injections centers?
In and out very fast with a burst of liquid. Afterwards a relaxed feeling.
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:57 PM
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Solution to what? Are you looking to eradicate all trace of drugs from society? Do you really think a stronger government strategy in the seventies would mean there would be no drugs in Ireland today?
People are taking drugs, there is no escaping that fact and no government strategy from the seventies eighties ninety's or today will stop that.
Harm reduction is the key today.
Why should the tax payer care about harm reduction?
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:58 PM
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The fire sale of assets.
Hmmmn dubious point of view, there are times when that is necessary. But if you dont want to examine it on the macro level then fine
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:02 PM
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Hmmmn dubious point of view, there are times when that is necessary. But if you dont want to examine it on the macro level then fine
Not really.

25 billion is probably a conservative estimate. Nama facilitated the sale of assets for a fraction of their worth. Doubt it all you want, it's the biggest unreported scandal of the last ten years.

Fota resort was definitely only worth 7.5 million.


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Old 09-08-2019, 10:07 PM
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Why should the tax payer care about harm reduction?
The same reason we have to pay for health care for fat people, drunks and smokers.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:18 PM
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The same reason we have to pay for health care for fat people, drunks and smokers.
The healthcare provided for the above is to try to cure the issue. Smokers will be helped and assisted in getting off the cigs, fat people with having a better diet and exercising etc...

Injection centres are not healthcare and are the equivalent of feeding fat people chicken wings but serving it with a stick of celery. They do nothing to solve the actual issue.

Just wait for the lawsuits against the HSE once some junky ODs in one of these centres or gets assaulted by one of his mates.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:27 PM
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Injection centres are not healthcare and are the equivalent of feeding fat people chicken wings but serving it with a stick of celery. They do nothing to solve the actual issue.

Just wait for the lawsuits against the HSE once some junky ODs in one of these centres or gets assaulted by one of his mates.
If by solve the issue you mean to stop people from taking drugs then you're correct but the purpose of supervised injecting facilities is to prevent vulnerable people from dying as a result of overdosing and to that purpose they are highly effective.

Chances of someone suing the HSE as a result of dying in a supervised injecting facility are almost nil as people who overdose there do not die. There are trained medical staff on hand to support the individual and administer naloxone immediately.

But listen you're not going to change your opinion so carry on.

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