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Old 27-02-2019, 12:44 AM
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Default The Hawe Family Massacre: Clodagh’s Story

On Claire Byrne last night there was a special feature of the story of Clodagh Hawe, the mother of the family that was savagely murdered by their father and her husband, Alan, in Cavan before he hanged himself.

Clodagh’s mother and sister were very brave in sharing their memories of the lady who seems to have been controlled at every turn by her narcissistic husband. They also wanted answers from Hawe’s school, the Gardai and other agencies involved in the case.

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Old 27-02-2019, 08:30 AM
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Gut wrenching stuff, He has been described as a monster, and his actions point him in that light, but if a woman was to do the same would she be described as a monster or would reasons like Depression, etc be bandied about?
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Old 27-02-2019, 08:35 AM
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Gut wrenching stuff, He has been described as a monster, and his actions point him in that light, but if a woman was to do the same would she be described as a monster or would reasons like Depression, etc be bandied about?
It's an insult to people who suffer from depression to lay the blame on that illness. He was a bully and control freak with a few nasty hobbies which were about to see the light of day so he decided to kill his family rather than face public humiliation. That he took the time to write out a note saying which of his family members were getting what he wanted them to have frim the house. No this was just an evil bastard.
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Old 27-02-2019, 08:51 AM
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It's an insult to people who suffer from depression to lay the blame on that illness. He was a bully and control freak with a few nasty hobbies which were about to see the light of day so he decided to kill his family rather than face public humiliation. That he took the time to write out a note saying which of his family members were getting what he wanted them to have frim the house. No this was just an evil bastard.
Absolutely, my point is if it was a woman would we be hearing various reasons trotted out?
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Old 27-02-2019, 09:00 AM
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Absolutely, my point is if it was a woman would we be hearing various reasons trotted out?
In the current climate of politics I fear to think what would have been said but I hope people would be smart enough to spot a monster from a genuine person who struggles with depression daily.
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Old 27-02-2019, 12:29 PM
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The evidence from this horrific case - from moving the furniture around so that his attacks would go unimpeded, to crafting a long and detailed "suicide note" to moving his weapons into the house well before the attacks and moving money from his bank account to his family AFTER he murdered Clodagh and the children indicates a callously plotted and premeditated slaughter, not the rash actions of a man who "snapped."

We now know that Alan Hawe was probably facing discliplinary action at his school for accessing porn - possibly illegal porn - on his computer at work - and he believed that slaughtering his wife and children and killing himself was preferable to facing humiliation and Clodagh possibly leaving him.

No, this was the calculated action of a narcissistic controlling evil bully.

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