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Old 15-10-2017, 04:04 PM
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Did I say that or ever say that? Read my post properly.
Did I say you said that? No.

Read MY post properly. I gave you a command, so why didn't you do it?

FFS Earl, stop being so facking pedantic.
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Old 15-10-2017, 04:10 PM
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Anyway, I am right and you are wrong. As usual. But more people agree with you than me (the majority is always wrong btw ). So FFG 4eva M8
I am not here to seek people's agreement, if I wanted that I would become a snowflake and follow LON on Twitter

It will most likely be FF/FG for the near future not 4eva though and that suits me perfectly fine till my circumstances change. Whereas they will still have you in a vicelike grip for years to come because nobody (well numbers that actually matter) is buying in to your socialist utopia bubble
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Old 15-10-2017, 04:12 PM
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Did I say you said that? No.

Read MY post properly. I gave you a command, so why didn't you do it?

FFS Earl, stop being so facking pedantic.
No being pedantic I pointed out that more money is being spent on health now and you somehow equate my post to what other countries spend. You said *again* implying that I had made such a claim before which I never have
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Old 15-10-2017, 04:14 PM
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I am not here to seek people's agreement, if I wanted that I would become a snowflake and follow LON on Twitter

It will most likely be FF/FG for the near future not 4eva though and that suits me perfectly fine till my circumstances change. Whereas they will still have you in a vicelike grip for years to come because nobody (well numbers that actually matter) is buying in to your socialist utopia bubble
I agree. FFG will rule for a long time.

I'm not a socialist Earl. I'm all for the free market except in a few key areas. I believe with a few percentage points higher tax, we can achieve a better society. The difference in yours and my opinion on how to run things is probably 5-10%.

We're not talking Karl Marx Vs Fredrick Hayek here
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Old 15-10-2017, 05:34 PM
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Bottom line also is MM is permanently damaged from being a front row forward on Team Bertie*
(*Temporary benefits may subside).

No one wants those kind of dopes.
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Old 16-10-2017, 09:24 PM
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Martin hints at extending FG deal.

Micheál Martin has hinted at extending the confidence and supply agreement to support Fine Gael in Government for longer than the three-budget deal.

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While the Fianna Fáil leader said his party is now growing “impatient” with the lack of progress on housing and health, he remains committed to supporting the current minority Government through the confidence and supply arrangement for the full term until 2019.

However, he went further in suggesting that this agreement could be stretched out and reviewed — potentially allowing Taoiseach Leo Varadkar to remain in power for a full five-year term.

“There is provision in the agreement for a review towards the end of 2018,” Mr Martin said.

“It’s our commitment to fulfill the confidence and supply,” he said.

It comes as the latest poll indicates that Fianna Fáil have closed the gap between themselves and Fine Gael by half in the last month.

A Sunday Times/Behaviour & Attitudes poll saw Fine Gael enjoy an eight-point lead over Mr Martin in September. However, that lead has now decreased to four points.

The poll shows Fine Gael has dropped two points to 31% while Fianna Fáil increased by two points to 27%. Sinn Féin remain unchanged on 19%, while Independents increased by two points to 12%.

Fianna Fáil members met in Dublin’s RDS over the weekend for their Ard Fheis where pension inequalities for women, tracker mortgages, and the housing crisis were among the motions debated and voted upon.

Party members also voted in favour of a retention of the Eighth Amendment while they voted to put forward a candidate in the presidential election next year.

Speaking after the Ard Fheis, Mr Martin said housing and health are key to maintaining the confidence and supply agreement but slammed Government for lacking a sense of urgency on both issues.

“Yes, we are becoming impatient about lack of delivery on housing, we lost a year due to the internal angst in Fine Gael around who was to become the leader, and in terms of all of the various initiatives they have taken around housing they have failed by their own admission.

“We have had four major strategies, four ministers, 40 major announcements and the problem keeps getting worse.

“We are saying certainly in the next 12 months there has to be delivery in relation to housing and in relation to health,” he told RTÉ’s The Week in Politics show.

In perhaps what was a Freudian slip where he referred to his party being in Government, Mr Martin said some room does need to be given to address the housing shortage but said time is now running out.

“We are only a year and a half in Government,” he said before correcting himself.


“Sorry in terms of this arrangement, in terms of confidence and supply we have only had year and a half in this Dáil so therefore we do need to give some room and space for delivery, but time is running out and excuses are running out, not for us but for the people who can’t rent a house who are fighting to stay in a house.”

But one Fine Gael minister yesterday said Mr Martin is more interested in “wagging the finger” than in offering his party’s vision or solutions for the country.

Minister of State for Food, Forestry and Horticulture, Andrew Doyle said Mr Martin is full of “bluster” and has yet to outline what exactly Fianna Fáil stand for following their Ard Fheis in Dublin over the weekend.

“Micheal Martin had 30 minutes of prime time TV on Saturday night to talk to the nation about solutions and ideas. Instead he just wagged the finger.

“Deputy Martin keeps promising that these big policy ideas are just around the corner and are coming soon, well where are they?

“All we have seen over the weekend at their Ard Fheis is an attack on Government and Fine Gael.

“Perhaps next time if afforded the same platform, he’ll be more original and positive and give us some vision and concrete proposals,” Mr Doyle said.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...al-460999.html
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Old 16-10-2017, 09:59 PM
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Martin hints at extending FG deal.

Micheál Martin has hinted at extending the confidence and supply agreement to support Fine Gael in Government for longer than the three-budget deal.



http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...al-460999.html
Toldya.
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Old 16-10-2017, 11:25 PM
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Toldya.
You told us FF wouldn't be in existence in 2017.
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Old 17-10-2017, 08:51 AM
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Mehole Martin let the cat out of the bag speaking about being just a year and a half in government.

Freudian Slip if ever there was one. Opposition my hairy @rse!

And the "Confidence and Supply" arrangement will be flipped after next election if FF lead FG in terms of seats - anything to keep SF out of power.
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Old 17-10-2017, 09:07 AM
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Mehole Martin let the cat out of the bag speaking about being just a year and a half in government.

Freudian Slip if ever there was one. Opposition my hairy @rse!

And the "Confidence and Supply" arrangement will be flipped after next election if FF lead FG in terms of seats - anything to keep SF out of power.
Exactly.



Just imagine knuckle dragging barstooling SF headbangers like Munt_y in charge of anything. They attract a very rough element of Irish society.
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